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Offline Raul CB750K1

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Re: SUPER PISSED!!!!
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2007, 04:08:46 PM »
When the seller says people has called but nobody has an appointment, I insist I WANT THE FIRST CHANCE. And if for our timetable it takes a few days to finally meet and some other buyer arrange to have a more flexible schedule, I insist I want to have the right to decide even if somebody sees it first. In that case I ask the seller to tell the buyer he has promised to me I will have the first option, and in case I don't want it he will be second.


That's a lot of insisting for someone who hasn't actually forked over any cash.  When I'm selling something, I Just say that the first person to show up with the correct amount of cash leaves with the merchandise.  No matter who called first.

It doesn't work this way in Spain. Vehicle transactions are generally done in two steps: In the first one seller and buyer meet in front of the vehicle and reach an agreement. Wether there is a down payment or not is up to them. The exchange of vehicle and money is generally made in an office where the paperwork is signed at the same time; the office clerk will do the paperwork for the DMV for a fee, but legally, once the clerk witness both parties doing the transaction, the vehicle belongs to the buyer for fines, insurance etc. even when the DMV has not received the title transaction yet.


For that reason, the fact that somebody go to the seller's place and say he wants the vehicle means nothing, not even if he pays an amount as a reserve. Legally, if the buyer backs off the seller has the right to keep the reserve, and if the contrary applies, the seller has to give double amount to the buyer. Problem is that once the money is on the seller's hand how would you force him to pay you double? For that reason, buyers try not to give any money down, and sellers try to avoid putting down prospective buyers even when there has been somebody saying he will buy. Sellers generally say: "somebody says that will buy it, but if you are interested, come over and see it". You just go there and stay in line, if the first buyer backs off you are next.


My brother just happened to buy a car that way. He called the guy and got an answer saying it was sold. My brother told him "in case the buyer backs off please call me". And so it happened. Turned out that the buyer was pissed off saying that it was the seller the one who had to pay the clerk for the paperwork...


You can't expect people here to go and see a vehicle with the cash in hand. You never know wether the ad is a fake and you will find a mofo stealing your money. For big amounts (+4000 euro) generally you prefer a bank transfer because there is always a way to trace the money and a proof of payment.

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Re: SUPER PISSED!!!!
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2007, 05:28:13 PM »
So Get this! I have been looking for a daily rider for a while now and have sort of decided that I wanted a Katana 600.

Anyways, I found a 2000 Kat 600 for $3000 on Craigslist and contact the guy. We trade emails on Tuesday and make an appointment for 5:30 today to come out and have a look at the bike and I assure the guy that I am VERY interested and he suggests that he will not take any offers before I get there and have a look at it in the day light. I drive the hour and a bit out there to see the bike and as I pull infront of the house I see him in the driveway with a guy who has his helmet in his hand! I figure hmmmm guess he is covering his ass by letting someone else see the bike....

I get out of the car and start walking up the driveway and the other guy takes a piece of paper and puts his head down and walks by without saying a word. I look at the seller and he looks back and says "Dennis man you're going to kill me"...

Right then I knew the dickhead sold it! The jerkoff then goes on to say that this guy called and wouldnt leave him alone blah blah blah...he didnt have my number to let me know....didnt think I would get his email in time... anyways, we exchange a few words (several of them in the 4 letter category) and I drive away. I then have the hour long drive home (on a friggin toll road on a day when the gas prices have hit the highest they have been in months!) to think about this dick and what he did.

Right now I am going to let the dust settle as all of our exchanges have been via email from my work account but give it a month or so and I suspect this guys work email will suddenly start receiving lots of gay porn spam! I also wonder how his wife is going to like the phone calls she gets from some of my female friends who claim they met him at the bar and how he gave them his number and can't figure out why a married man would do such a thing!

With any luck real Karma will get this dick long before I have a chance to start making his life difficult. Wish I was more like Cheapo and just punched him in the head at the time and probably would have had my exchanges with him not originated from my work account.

Thanks for letting me vent!

Dennis


After I am driving more than an hour and the seller knows, if they sell the bike meanwhile. They just get a good hard sock in the face- (only done this once). I figure the $1,000 of dental work they need afterwards makes up for the #$%*y sale process.  ;)
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Re: SUPER PISSED!!!!
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2007, 03:08:21 PM »
"How many times has a potential buyer not shown up?

Money talks, suckers walk.  Sorry man, sucks as it is, but that's the way the world works.


Ordinarily I'd agree with this statement, but if someone voluntarily says they'll hold the bike for a specific person (like this seller did), then they are a low-life if they don't keep their word.  "


That's what really pissed me off in this case. I had an appointment and couldn't make it that day or the next but HE suggested he would hold it! Otherwise I would have atleast called back in advance to ensure he still had the bike.

Dennis

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Re: SUPER PISSED!!!!
« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2007, 05:43:22 PM »
The reality is that, yes, people who don't buy and sell a lot or even hardly at all just don't know how to do it.

There are rules of common decency but as as been posted here, as soon as the cash gets waved around it's "goodnight nurse" and the deal you thought you had sewn-up is toast and the guy that turned up ahead of you takes the prize..

Rules when buying. Get there fast, take cash and don't insult the seller with a stupid low offer.
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Re: SUPER PISSED!!!!
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2007, 10:32:43 AM »
Still, it's better to be pissed off than pissed on! ;D ;D
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Re: SUPER PISSED!!!!
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2007, 08:07:27 AM »
I agree with Ernie on this...

Screw the new age Jap sport bikes, go with a BMW R90s or R100s!  Damn comfy bikes with plenty of get-up-and-go juice.  A little buzzy compared to the CB, but what do you expect from an airhead boxer twin?  ;D

Plus, you'll get infinitely more attention because (a) it's a badass lookin bike, and (b) it's a Beemer!
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