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Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« on: July 10, 2019, 08:01:17 AM »
K5, but late-'74 build date. The rack does not have a hole in it between 1&2 for the fuel line to run through, like the older bikes had. Petcock on the bike is new OEM Honda, p/n 16950-341-671. I believe the petcock/tank changed late-74 to the single line, screw-on type, as opposed to the screw-through-the-body, 2-line type. Both are shown in the parts diagram, which also shows that the screw-on type petcock's output points down, not sideways. https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/honda/motorcycle/models-with-no-year/cb750k5-a/fuel-tank

It has been suggested that the T's between the carbs and the splitter that comes off the petcock to go to those T's should point up, not down. But again, there is no hole in the rack to pass the line through, and in order to run the fuel line over the TOP of the rack it would require a tight 90-degree bend in the line, or else run the line outside the #1 intake, around the choke lever and then over. Neither can be correct.

I may be having fuel starvation/bowl filling issues, and this may be the culprit. But I can't for the life of me figure out how else it's supposed to go.

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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2019, 11:46:01 AM »
I have the same issue with my K6. Pretty much did exactly what your pictures show. No issues with fuel flow. Will be interested to see what others suggest!

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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2019, 11:50:16 AM »
My CB750 K2 has K6 carbs. Moved idle screw to left side to avoid petcock.
1-4 hose routed over the carbs, a strap keep hose away from the moving part (mostly idle screw) when throttling. 2-3 thru a hole in the rack.
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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2019, 12:32:07 PM »
Maybe this is the answer: my rack is like this, with one hole next to #4. Perhaps my carbs aren't K5 and are from an earlier bike that had the petcock on the right side?
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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2019, 04:17:31 AM »
There are two holes on the carb bracket. The second one just above and to the left of carb#3 in your photo. Poor memory but I think the fuel line for #1 and #2 goes through that one..
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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2019, 07:45:31 PM »
The K4 and K5 often had 2-outlet petcocks, no apparent reasons I've ever seen. The 2-outlet type yields a higher top speed on the bike.

The fuel lines ABSOLUTELY must enter the fuel tees from above. If not, they hydraulically lock one side out until both of those carbs drain enough to let air into that side, then it starts to flow, locking out the other side. This push-pull business then repeats. The bike then feels like it has 'surges' of power, punctuated by lost-power sensation for awhile, back-and-forth.

One nice way to beat it if you have a 1-outlet petcock is to install a long line from it to reach the top of the airbox, and install a tee there to feed the 2 carb fuel tees. This longer line increases the available flow to both sides and helps reduce the timed restriction issues with the fuel tee tucked behind carb#1. I've had to fix cafe'd bikes with Crapy tanks on them, with his fuel petcocks that are in the wrong position... (was that a typo?...).
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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2019, 09:43:40 PM »
Ok, missed the detail of one piped K5-K6 petcock.  ::)

My K6 stock tank had one hose to the T, then to both carbs. NO hoses thru the carbs rack.
It had no fuel issues with this setup. 4 long tourings thru Europe, around 5000-6000 km each holiday.  Up and down thru the Alps, Pyrenees.
Plus cruising/racing on the streets around town. 836, ported head, cam could use some fuel.
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2019, 05:52:23 AM »
Kind of a hard turn out of the petcock but it's not starved for fuel. Would like a petcock with a 90 out of the bottom.

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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2019, 09:36:20 AM »
I think this is the standard fuel line routing.
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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2019, 08:14:01 PM »
I think this is the standard fuel line routing.

You're pretty close: there are 2 types of single-outlet petcocks on the K5/6 and F0/1 bikes. On those where the petcock outlet exits the petcock horizontally toward the bike's center, the hose enters in between carbs 1 and 2, not thru that hole in the bracket. On the ones where the spigot points downward from a 17mm long squarish manifold on the back side of the petcock, the hose goes thru the hole in the bracket and meets the brass tee.

Another thing you might find: there is a third style of petcock from the F1 where the spigot points backward, toward the back of the bike, and this one cannot be easily used with the round-top carbs, as it is intended for the PD carbs. Some tanks have been swapped onto F0/1 and K4/5/6 bikes with these petcocks, causing lots of e-mail to come my way...

If your petcock does not have the little filter bowl on the bottom, then your carbs MUST have the little screens in the float valves. These appear in the type 086/a carbs and will not fit into the 657a/b or 7A type carbs, though, leaving you with having to install an inline fuel filter. When THAT happens, the easiest way to make it work is to run a long hose to the top of the airbox area, with an inline filter along the way, and tee it back there before going forward to the carbs. It slows fuel delivery during hard acceleration, but unless you're running 13-second quarter miles with it, you won't notice.
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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2019, 11:23:48 PM »
This is good info to know if I'll fix my old K6 stock tank. It has a new petcock waiting.
I never had fuel issues, but I'm sure I will if fixing it to use it again if not routing hoses prooerly.
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The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2019, 03:57:03 AM »
Kind of a hard turn out of the petcock but it's not starved for fuel. Would like a petcock with a 90 out of the bottom.

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This is exactly like mine.

I twisted the petcock just a little to the front to relieve that hard turn a little.
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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2019, 05:57:51 PM »
Kind of a hard turn out of the petcock but it's not starved for fuel. Would like a petcock with a 90 out of the bottom.

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This is exactly like mine.

I twisted the petcock just a little to the front to relieve that hard turn a little.

On the K6 bikes with the one-outlet vertical petcock, I have once in a while made a 90-degree turn of 1/4" copper tubing and cut it into the tight bend if the fuel line was collapsing. At that time we could not get Honda's superior 5.5mm hose (2002-2010 or so) that is also ethanol-resistant. This made an interesting-looking mod on the 2 cafe's they last went on, as the copper got polished and clear-coated, making another shiny piece. :)
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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2019, 12:50:56 AM »
I have copper brake tubes for fuel project if needed. 6 and 8mm OD.
That's for my K6 using old style tank (Yamiya), Mikuni TMR with dual 8mm fuel feed pipes.

Today a plumbing using fuel resistant plastic 90* bends and adaptors 6-8 mm.  Maybe there are better tubing for 6mm OD getting wider inside to not restrict fuel flow.
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2019, 03:54:18 PM »
Kind of a hard turn out of the petcock but it's not starved for fuel. Would like a petcock with a 90 out of the bottom.

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This is exactly like mine.

I twisted the petcock just a little to the front to relieve that hard turn a little.

On the K6 bikes with the one-outlet vertical petcock, I have once in a while made a 90-degree turn of 1/4" copper tubing and cut it into the tight bend if the fuel line was collapsing. At that time we could not get Honda's superior 5.5mm hose (2002-2010 or so) that is also ethanol-resistant. This made an interesting-looking mod on the 2 cafe's they last went on, as the copper got polished and clear-coated, making another shiny piece. :)
Ended up fitting this. Had to trim one side down so it would fit below the petcock. Stainless from a beer tap supply co.

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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2019, 06:24:49 PM »
I have also run the one fuel line from the petcock toward the middle, then turned it back and applied a tee to reach both sides from behind the carbs. On a 1000cc R/C powered CB750 chopper I remember (which was a real quick bike with 140+ MPH top speed) the owner ran a single-outlet petcock (not OEM) all across the rack from the right side, turned it back to behind the far carb where he dropped a tee to the far set, then came back across the back to reach the other side. Reason: the (1 gallon) fuel tank would heat up the gas a lot with the R/C engine, and the airflow that made it over the top of the engine was, in his opinion, cooling the fuel off a bit and reduced the tendency for the carbs to boil in heavy traffic on hot days. It was hard to argue with his top speed...
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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2019, 05:45:43 AM »
Since installing this stainless 90 the transition from pilot to main jet has improved. Very smooth between 4000-5000 rpm. I guess I was a little starved for fuel.

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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2019, 06:25:04 PM »
Another thing that has helped (since ethanol came along and helps collapse these fuel lines at bends) was to install some small springs into the line right at this spot. I found some at Ace Hardware that could be cut to fit, but I can't publish all the words I used to get the springs into those lines...it only took about 3/4" (19mm for the Euro/Japanese mind) to do it.
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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2021, 12:04:48 AM »
Resurrecting this old thread with new question
… or at least, one not fully answered previously.
I have a k5 and the round top carbs and the “correct” single outlet Petcock that aims back toward the carbs. 
As you can see in the first photo,  the operation of the choke runs against the fuel line -which is where you don’t want wear… so the tank needs to be higher or the carbs lower or the petcock changed. Right?
Well I rotated the petcock so the fuel line now reaches out and around the #1carb top…
And it clears now.
The only prob will be trying to turn the lever on the petcock when the engine is hot - it barely clears and so will have to be done with gloves on. Still not optimal… but best plan I could come up with that doesn’t involve buying more parts…

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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2021, 12:25:31 AM »
When .my K6 had its original tank, fuel hose routed between carb boot 1-2. Hose  down over starter cover and up to the carbs via its stock T splitter. No fuel issues.
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2021, 06:06:14 AM »
Resurrecting this old thread with new question
… or at least, one not fully answered previously.
I have a k5 and the round top carbs and the “correct” single outlet Petcock that aims back toward the carbs. 
As you can see in the first photo,  the operation of the choke runs against the fuel line -which is where you don’t want wear… so the tank needs to be higher or the carbs lower or the petcock changed. Right?
Well I rotated the petcock so the fuel line now reaches out and around the #1carb top…
And it clears now.
The only prob will be trying to turn the lever on the petcock when the engine is hot - it barely clears and so will have to be done with gloves on. Still not optimal… but best plan I could come up with that doesn’t involve buying more parts…

Open to suggestions



Looks like a good idea........
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Re: Fuel line routing: CB750 K5
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