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suits and boots: opinions please
« on: March 02, 2007, 02:44:25 PM »
Early spring and late fall is strange riding around here.  Temps can be below freezing when I leave, and 50s when I return.  Or not.   :D

My regular commute is about 130 miles roundtrip, mostly on the interstate.

Right now I wear a leather (Cortech Coaster) jacket with fleece sweater and long undershirt (under my reg shirt) and long johns, reg pants, and light fleece and overpants.  On the ride home half of that is in my duffel.  It's a little crazy.

When the weather warms up, I switch to a First Gear fabric jacket and pants.

For boots, I've got my trusty Corcoran jump boots, or my old Hamegaper boots from the IDF.

So now, I'm thinking of looking for a one piece suit, at least for the really cold rides.  Maybe for some touring.  I actually like my combat boots, but I'm open to other ideas as they wear down (and I still need my jump boots for work!).

What experience and opinions do you have with suits or boots?  Especially suits.  I'm looking at some items on Ebay now.  There's no way I can even think about paying new prices for Aerostich or their competitors.

So far, I see Aerostich from time to time on Ebay, and there's a Triumph Aspen Sympatex suit that looks like it would do the trick (if the Small-Medium works for size).

Any suggestions?  Thanks!
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Re: suits and boots: opinions please
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2007, 07:52:28 PM »
I take no replies to mean no one has anything useful to offer?
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Re: suits and boots: opinions please
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2007, 08:32:24 PM »
Check out a local BMW or TRIUMPH dealer. Some pretty nice gear at a lot of those shops. I'm thinking it was a tad over $100 for the summer rain suit and well over $200 for the winter rig at a local BMW shop a couple years ago? Both one piece with the zipper down one leg. Nice looking quality.
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2007, 11:42:47 PM »
I picked up an aerostich roadcrafter 2 piece last spring and love it.  It's not the most stylish suit out there but its functional and oh so easy to take on and off.  If you don't have everything just right you will get some leaking at the crotch.  Thats easy enough to prevent though.  Last fall I rode 200 miles in 40 degrees with heavy rain the entire way and stayed nice and toasty and dry with the roadcrafter and heated vest. 

I also just bought a pair of Sidi on road boots with sympatex waterproof liner.  I've worn them around a bit and they seem very comfortable.

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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2007, 04:37:19 AM »
I also have a 2-piece Roadcrafter, bought in 1995.  There's a lot of miles on it now.  As expensive as they are, I'll buy another when this one wears out. 
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2007, 05:54:05 AM »
I know several serious riders here who were totally dedicated to their 'Stitches but are now converted to Olympia Motorsports suits.  More versatile and less money. 
I wear Redwing boots because they have the best leather.  I'm convinced I still have a foot because of them.  A lot of people seem to like the Sidis, though.
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2007, 06:38:04 AM »
I know several serious riders here who were totally dedicated to their 'Stitches but are now converted to Olympia Motorsports suits.  More versatile and less money. 
I wear Redwing boots because they have the best leather.  I'm convinced I still have a foot because of them.  A lot of people seem to like the Sidis, though.

I haven't even seen the Olympia suits.  The few friends I have who wear a suit have 'stiches and really like them.

I also like Redwings, and have definately thought about them (though I don't like how the quality went down in the Vasque subsidiary).

Keep the ideas coming, guys!
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2007, 12:31:50 PM »
http://www.olympiamotosports.com/index.htm

They are about a half hour ride from here.  They gave an AST suit one one of our "group" (WNCriders) in payment for modeling with his GS. Within a hear and a half, 3 other guys were wearing them. Another guy bought a suit after talking to the rep and trying them on.  Apparently these guys are nuts about the suits.

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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2007, 05:55:21 PM »
Hey Uncle Ernie,

any of your folks tried their Phantom suit?
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Re: suits and boots: opinions please
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2007, 11:09:58 PM »
IMHO regarding boots - save yourself some money, and buy a decent (meaning breathable and waterproof) hiking boots. The only downside is the gear lever wear, but those shoes you can buy in such variety and prices, that it beats the motorcycling shoes. As I live in the mountains, i mainly use them, and they never let me down. Last few days i had wet snow coming, and i went riding, and absolutely  nothing!

For shoes i stay by good hiking gear. You can go hiking in them too, after the bike :)
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2007, 11:24:29 PM »
IMHO regarding boots - save yourself some money, and buy a decent (meaning breathable and waterproof) hiking boots. The only downside is the gear lever wear, but those shoes you can buy in such variety and prices, that it beats the motorcycling shoes. As I live in the mountains, i mainly use them, and they never let me down. Last few days i had wet snow coming, and i went riding, and absolutely  nothing!

For shoes i stay by good hiking gear. You can go hiking in them too, after the bike :)

I've worn my hiking boots on my bikes.  They don't quite fit under the gearshift comfortably.  My Mt. Lites (old Zamberlans) are way too thick.  My Asolos are better, but still thicker than my jump boots (even the ones with the Vibram soles).  The other thing is sometimes I need something a bit more like a 'street shoe' when I get where I'm going.  Jump/combat boots sort of pass as a plain shoe.

So far, Redwings sound like they're worth looking at.  There's a Redwing store here in town...
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2007, 04:08:57 AM »
 I've always used boots, and Redwings for the last 25 years.
I would not use hiking boots unless they had good strong covering of the ankle knob.  You need protection there in case you go sliding on asphalt.  I don't think that part of the body grows back too well after being scraped off.

When I used to commute at 5AM, it was pretty cold, just above freezing some days.  I bought a bomber jacket, fleece lined, with elastic sleeve and waist seals.  The bates gauntlets fit right up to where the leather began on the sleeve.  For the neck I used an acrylic scarf, as wool was just too itchy.  Sometimes, I would also wear a sweater under the jacket.  I found ski pant lowers at a sporting goods store.  These had zippers up the sides and snap closures around the ankles and waist.  They were thick and warm and excellent at blocking the wind and rain water.  They went on and off very fast at work.  I should have gotten them one size larger to prevent the air ingress in the back between waist and coat, though.  These could easily be bungeed onto the bike when not need during the warm part of the day.

I finally got a First Gear Scout jacket that works much better than the Bomber jacket.  It seals in all the right places, has an effective neck cover/ seal, extra long in the back, removeable thinsulate lining, and extra long sleeves, for when your arms are outstretched in front of you.
Nicest of all, I can still wear this coat in the summer, as it has zippered vents chest and back.  Plus it has unzipable scoops near the sleeves to catch the breeze up your arms to vent out your back.  If you are moving and there is a cooling air, you can wear this leather jacket in the summer,too.  It's the best motorcycle jacket I've ever found.  However, I do wish it had armor for the elbows and shoulders.

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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2007, 06:51:58 AM »
Medic- 3 BMW guys and one Duc owner.  All research the living daylights out of every purchase and they all got the same suit- just different colour choices.  So- I don't know about the Phantom.

Since you know about hiking boots, I assume you know about NikWax that does a good job of making things water resistant.  In long rides, I just have always brought those stretchy rubber over-boots and a travel size bottle of baby powder. That makes it easy to the slide the booties on and off.  I've heard some people use plastic grocery bags, too.
Another tip; whatever boot you get, replace the laces with wide, flat hiking laces.  They will NEVER break and they stay tied.  They make me look like a skinhead, but I like red.
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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2007, 05:32:59 PM »
An option if you are not Mr.moneybags is mossi. I got a jacket of theirs from jcwhitney and it has worked very well. It is tough and has the CE armor in the elbows and shoulders and a pad for the back. It is adjustable under the arms and the sides and has vents that can be zipped open, it also has and thinsulate liner that can be removed. It buttons up pretty tightly. I have used it when it has been in the 90s here and unless i have to sit for a while, I get warm but not too hot. It also has worked well into the 40s so that is a pretty wide range. It also has a zipper connector for their pants.

I also do the hiking boot thing. regular boots always feel so clunky and make shifting hard.  My hikers aretough and have held up very well and are a very solidly built leather.  I think a shoe has to be comfortable as well as protective in order to be worth using.

Everyone always talks about protection but really the most important thing is comfort. If the jacket or shoes of whatever is not comfortable, they can protect you as well as a full suit of armor but are useless if you cant stand to wear it. Comfort is every bit as required as protection.

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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2007, 05:50:43 PM »
Well, I certainly agree about comfort; ease of use is part of that. 

I'm looking specifically for something for cold weather riding.  It was below freezing by a few degrees when I left this morning, and around 50 F when I returned.  What I'm looking for is something for this early (and late) season riding.  For the main riding season I've got a leather and a textile jacket.  That's why I was thinking a one-piece with removable insulated liner might be the thing...

As for boots, I actually find my jump boots pretty comfortable.  I'm just trying to preserve them since I need them for work.  Besides, I'd rather wear brown when I'm not in uniform...
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