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Re: Black Friday - a red 1965 CB160 build.
« Reply #200 on: December 18, 2021, 11:46:36 AM »
I just went up and shifted things around in the Evaporust. Moved the bolts and nuts on the chain adjusters and threw them back in. Took a look at the tool box, it'll stay in for a few more days in a few more positions. I pulled the switch wiring out of the Scrambler bars and put the switches in for an overnight soak. The mirror that came on the bike is coming along, it's not a metric thread and the mirror perch threads are buggered from when 'Ol Bob must have force threaded it in, thanks Bob. But the mirror glass quality is very good so if the rest of the mirror cleans up I'll just thread it back in with the checknut it came to me with. I ran the left hand handlebar grip under a trickle of hot water for several minutes and was pleasantly surprised that it slipped off the bar with only moderate effort. The right grip was still on the steel throttle tube, not much leverage there so I peeled the grip off in one continuous strand like an orange peel...and put the throttle tube back into the Evaporust. I also set the right hand side of the Scrambler bars in to soak and there was still some room so I set the front right corner of the front fender in to soak too. Maybe after a few changes of position it'll come clean too.

I'd love to set up a small tabletop booth with a pump, heater and positionable sprinklers to constantly shower parts with Evaporust. Big enough for a frame. I could just set both fenders in there and come back later. It'd need a filter too, just something to catch the suspended particles. That's a side project I should really do.

Anywho, the old grips don't match up to my repop grips at all, ima buy another set o 699's.

Anyone think I should use a plastic throttle tube for safety?

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Re: Black Friday - a red 1965 CB160 build.
« Reply #201 on: December 18, 2021, 01:51:42 PM »
Edit: I picked this headlight up from Bill, should be here in a few days.

That sounds good Bill, I'll PM you, thanks!
Edit: looks good!

You have to link hosted photos in PMs, no provision to upload to the forum in the PM options.

Alan,the NOS sealed beam headlight is on it's way to you USPS Priority as of today.
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Re: Black Friday - a red 1965 CB160 build.
« Reply #202 on: December 18, 2021, 02:43:03 PM »
Sweet, thanks Bill!

And my NOS front brake shoes arrived, the eBay seller Animalhouse2010 didn't pack them very well, just saran wrapped them against each other, wrapped some cardboard and packing tape around them and tossed them in a priority mail pouch. I'm a little pissed so I'm not leaving feedback, but they look ok so I'm happy to have them.
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Re: Black Friday - a red 1965 CB160 build.
« Reply #203 on: December 18, 2021, 06:04:47 PM »
Good job Alan, use the metal throttle tube by all means, I wish all mine were metal, one of the problems I had recently with preparing my spare Triumph Rocket III for a Roadworthy inspection was that the OEM plastic thottle tube had somehow bulged inwards and was rubbing on the bars, and no amount of grinding from the inside was of any help.

As for that Ebay seller, leave him neutral feedback and state why, "Good parts, good price, but lazy packaging, luckily they survived shipping, just." Why let him get away with it? Imagine what those parts would look like by the time they arrived at my front door, after they'd been through the hands (and boots) of many postal workers on both sides of the ocean.

I received a complete Yamaha SD6 gearbox that a seller sent in one of those USPS paper thin boxes, and the seller was pissed at me for leaving him neutral feedback, even though there was a hole in the box and some parts had probably fallen out. I say "probably" because I would have to check numerous parts against the factory parts manual, so I just shoved it in the tub with all the other SD6 parts, and I guess I'll find out when I start that build. ;D
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Re: Black Friday - a red 1965 CB160 build.
« Reply #204 on: December 18, 2021, 06:13:37 PM »
I agree with Terry, he deserves neutral feedback about his poor packaging.
Glad you got them unscathed.
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Re: Black Friday - a red 1965 CB160 build.
« Reply #205 on: December 18, 2021, 06:33:47 PM »
Yeah me to, I think there's a waiting period before neutral or negative feedback can be left though.
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Re: Black Friday - a red 1965 CB160 build.
« Reply #206 on: December 19, 2021, 07:09:56 AM »
Tell him it is coming and why
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Re: Black Friday - a red 1965 CB160 build.
« Reply #208 on: December 19, 2021, 07:20:30 AM »
Ebay can get pissy if you don't communicate with seller before leaving neutral or negative feedback
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Re: Black Friday - a red 1965 CB160 build.
« Reply #209 on: December 19, 2021, 11:30:53 AM »
Some more mostly rust free, clean parts with a coat of CorrosionX:

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Re: Black Friday - a red 1965 CB160 build.
« Reply #210 on: December 19, 2021, 12:07:29 PM »
That toolbox looks sweet  8)
This bike was a wonderful well-kept secret until you found it first Alan;I hope you're able to score that CL200 also as it was only manufactured for one year.
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Re: Black Friday - a red 1965 CB160 build.
« Reply #211 on: December 19, 2021, 12:20:55 PM »
Thanks Bill, I guess the time was right for one of these. I'll update on the CL200 when I know more.

The Evaporust seems to still be going strong strangely enough. I'm just running out of parts to soak. I should probably go have a look at that steering damper knob. Maybe it's free now and I can get the triples off the frame. That old steering lock looks to be in tough shape and I'm not sure what I'll be doing with it.

I still need to disassemble those brake plates and get them cleaned up.

Maybe I'll shop for a seat cover and some rear brake shoes.

Those forks will probably be a challenge too, I'm not looking forward to that.

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Re: Black Friday - a red 1965 CB160 build.
« Reply #212 on: December 19, 2021, 12:33:30 PM »
That seems to be a very useful chemical!!! ;D
Restore to good look with its original parts must raise the value for you as a restorer/owner/rider and eventual furure owners.
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Re: Black Friday - a red 1965 CB160 build.
« Reply #213 on: December 19, 2021, 12:39:55 PM »
Thanks PeWe, that's what I'm hoping for. I'm not sure how bad or how good it will come together, but once it's together and running I can pick and choose where to go with it.

One good thing about a winter build like this is that these parts will sit with a coating of CorrosionX on them for a few months at ~65F so it will have plenty of time to halt any and all remaining rust or corrosion that the Evaporust missed. I'm pleased with that idea.

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« Reply #214 on: December 19, 2021, 02:03:34 PM »
I just picked up this seat cover from Thailand, there were some with the Honda logo on the back screened in a yellow/gold color that I wasn't too keen on. This one has the logo in white but I'm not sure if the font is correct, I doubt many people will notice. This one also comes with the grab strap and all 15 chrome studs. I'm hopeful it'll turn out well.
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« Reply #215 on: December 19, 2021, 03:56:19 PM »
Those Pit Replica seat covers are great Alan, I have one on my T500, and another on my CB750A. The price is right, and shipping was pretty fast too, from memory? I'm looking forward to seeing the finished bike, I was looking at my T500 yesterday and loving that it's a good looking rider, and not still just a pile of parts while I wait for months for new chrome, new professional paint, over priced NOS parts, etc.

The good thing about a "Restification" is that you get to ride it without putting a lot of money into it (well OK, mine's cost me around $6K USD so far...) then once it's done you can decide if you want to spend the extra bucks to get stuff re-chromed, professionally painted, etc. I've known a few guys who did "Big Dollar" resto's who then sold their bikes pretty much as soon as they were finished, because they'd either over-capitalised on the resto and needed to get their money back pronto, (usually before their wives checked their bank accounts) or to discover that they just didn't like the finished product that much. Restifications rule! ;D
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Re: Black Friday - a red 1965 CB160 build.
« Reply #216 on: December 19, 2021, 04:27:26 PM »
Those Pit Replica seat covers are great Alan, I have one on my T500, and another on my CB750A. The price is right, and shipping was pretty fast too, from memory? I'm looking forward to seeing the finished bike, I was looking at my T500 yesterday and loving that it's a good looking rider, and not still just a pile of parts while I wait for months for new chrome, new professional paint, over priced NOS parts, etc.

The good thing about a "Restification" is that you get to ride it without putting a lot of money into it (well OK, mine's cost me around $6K USD so far...) then once it's done you can decide if you want to spend the extra bucks to get stuff re-chromed, professionally painted, etc. I've known a few guys who did "Big Dollar" resto's who then sold their bikes pretty much as soon as they were finished, because they'd either over-capitalised on the resto and needed to get their money back pronto, (usually before their wives checked their bank accounts) or to discover that they just didn't like the finished product that much. Restifications rule! ;D

Terry,I looked-up restification in the dictionary,couldn't find it :D  ;D
What's your working definition of it ?

Would it mean similar to 50% restoration ?
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Re: Black Friday - a red 1965 CB160 build.
« Reply #217 on: December 19, 2021, 04:53:37 PM »
Terry, I'm glad it's a good choice thanks for confirming for me.

I went looking for some replacement cable adjusters for my lever perches for clutch and front drum brake and was completely shocked at what I found. The original adjusters are losing their chrome plating to a degree that I'm willing to replace them but all I find are overpriced, offshore or just plain inappropriate.

I wound up at 4into1's eBay store where they had chrome adjusters cheap, those grooved rear brake shoes, and a set of exhaust gaskets at an ok price.

I'm beginning to fear the grand total, but honestly while I'm riding it I'll just list the bike for $6800 US and if it sells, so be it. (And I'll tell the low-ballers to go &) Find a nicer one cheaper, buh-bye.
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« Reply #218 on: December 20, 2021, 01:17:21 AM »
Yeah mate, when I first started on the T500 I told the insurance company that I wanted "Agreed Value" of $8000 to cover the purchase price, plus shipping, plus the parts I needed to buy, and when it was finished I'd up it to $12000, because the only other one even resembling mine in good condition was for sale on Ebay here for $12000.00.

I just received my insurance renewal, and my 1969 Suzuki T350 has been re-valued from $8K to $11K, so I don't think I'll have a problem insuring the T500 for $12K. I do need to chat to them about my two Honda RC51's though, they've been devalued from $10K 6 years ago to only $7800, when in reality they're up in K0/sandcast country, more like $20K - 30K each, and more, but mine aren't "mint", so I'll be happy with $20K agreed value for each of them. That'll be 5 of my bikes valued at over $20K each now. ;D
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Re: Black Friday - a red 1965 CB160 build.
« Reply #219 on: December 20, 2021, 02:03:38 PM »
I’ll have to insure my Z1 when it goes out on the road, what insurance company is good to work with?
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Re: Black Friday - a red 1965 CB160 build.
« Reply #220 on: December 20, 2021, 04:01:29 PM »
Received my sealed beam, made in Japan headlight bulb today! Thanks Bill.

I stopped by storage and gave the steering damper another try...no dice so I sprayed all of the likely areas again with Seafoam Deep Creep and I'll try again in a few days.

I'll check the parts that I've got soaking a little later on.

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Re: Black Friday - a red 1965 CB160 build.
« Reply #221 on: December 20, 2021, 04:27:13 PM »
Received my sealed beam, made in Japan headlight bulb today! Thanks Bill.

I stopped by storage and gave the steering damper another try...no dice so I sprayed all of the likely areas again with Seafoam Deep Creep and I'll try again in a few days.

I'll check the parts that I've got soaking a little later on.

I'm glad you recd. it in a timely manner.
I hope you're able to loosen up that steering damper somehow..
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« Reply #222 on: December 20, 2021, 11:36:15 PM »
Yeah, those steering dampers are a nightmare Alan, so far I've saved one out of three, so keep working on it, and don't forget to take a gas torch to heat it up to allow the deep creep to suck into the bottom joint. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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Re: Black Friday - a red 1965 CB160 build.
« Reply #223 on: December 21, 2021, 04:00:11 AM »
I have used Geico and Progressive over the years...
Give Hagerty and Dairyland a look too...
An independent insurance agent might be able to find you better rates/coverage. I have been working with an agent associated with Dave Ramsey the past few years and have saved quite a bit doing that. Paying yearly or 6-months for car all at once saves you more...
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« Reply #224 on: December 21, 2021, 05:10:29 AM »
Yeah, those steering dampers are a nightmare Alan, so far I've saved one out of three, so keep working on it, and don't forget to take a gas torch to heat it up to allow the deep creep to suck into the bottom joint. ;D

Are those friction plates flammable? I doubt I could find another set.