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Offline amitr0

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1970 750
« on: December 27, 2021, 05:39:17 PM »
What should be a reasonable price for a 1970 registered cb750. Bike has missing side covers, no front fender, not running. No rust in tank, engine not ceased. From what i gather, single owner, but been sitting away for a while.

Needs a restoration, or at minimum a solid overhaul to even be ridable.

Owner has title.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2021, 06:11:58 PM by amitr0 »

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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2021, 05:49:19 PM »
k?  c?  or f?    If its a c or a k, nobody much wants the damn thing, so don't highball him for sure.  The f model has some value depending on condition.
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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2021, 06:00:09 PM »
k?  c?  or f?    If its a c or a k, nobody much wants the damn thing, so don't highball him for sure.  The f model has some value depending on condition.

Oh realky, can you educate me in why the c or the k is less desirable than the F?

The ad doesnt mention what it is, but judging by the exhaust, 4x4 i am guessing a K. Can colors be used to distinguish?

Also, was the C model even available for that year?

« Last Edit: December 27, 2021, 06:12:48 PM by amitr0 »

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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2021, 06:40:14 PM »
750c?  If you gonna buy an old cruiser, why would you pay real money for a jap bike?   and there is a billion of them everywhere for less anyway
79 cb750k is dohc this is not the classic sohc that we all know and love...once again plenty of suzuki and kawasaki 1980's standards that could blow the honda's in the weeds

but really, this was the dawn of sport bikes.  That's what was influential and ground breaking back then.  The dohc F was a viable and competitive sport bike.  Thus there is a market for clean original, restored, or repairable 1979 cb750f's

None of this is to say that if YOU love a 79 c or k that you shouldn't get it and fix it up, just don't expect to be able to sell it for as much as you got into it because there are not many others who want one.
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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2021, 06:44:58 PM »
750c?  If you gonna buy an old cruiser, why would you pay real money for a jap bike?   and there is a billion of them everywhere for less anyway
79 cb750k is dohc this is not the classic sohc that we all know and love...once again plenty of suzuki and kawasaki 1980's standards that could blow the honda's in the weeds

but really, this was the dawn of sport bikes.  That's what was influential and ground breaking back then.  The dohc F was a viable and competitive sport bike.  Thus there is a market for clean original, restored, or repairable 1979 cb750f's

None of this is to say that if YOU love a 79 c or k that you shouldn't get it and fix it up, just don't expect to be able to sell it for as much as you got into it because there are not many others who want one.

I think there is some confusion, it is a 1970, not a 79....

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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2021, 07:18:20 PM »
Definitely said 1979 before the edit.

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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2021, 07:43:02 PM »
Definitely said 1979 before the edit.
lol thanks for confirming I am not crazy....I actually am, but never mind that

Ok, I did notice o.p. had 1970 in the title but his first post originally said 1979...I apologize, I should have known.  Absolutely none of what I said applies to a 1970 cb750.
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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2021, 07:49:55 PM »
Sorry for all the confusion.

Okay, so if it is indeed a 1970, with the condition I mentioned, what would it evaluate to? It is a sandcast?

I have limited knowledge about these, and don't want to invest without asking you all.

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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2021, 08:11:30 PM »
Pics?

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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2021, 08:26:11 PM »
Pics?

There was only one, I have requested more daylight pics of it, probably will get them tomorrow

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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2021, 08:42:43 PM »
This may or may not be a bike to acquire by pulling out that "extra $500 US Dollars from your other pocket.

Forgetting what's missing, figure on what's present. I'm not going to pretend I'm up on what constitutes a low price for a K0, but if you figure you're a regular un-retired guy living close to paycheck to paycheck like me, and you can confirm this bike is what you think it is, and you can pick it up for cash....it may well be worth the sacrifice.

Latch onto a member wise in the ways, get a cell# and call them while you're with the bike. Text pics, share the vin# and get a good opinion from a member that knows the way forward. This technology wasn't always with us so use it to your personal benefit and buy that guy a nice gift after the fact.

Amitr0 although you haven't been here long, you are asking intelligent questions. I have great expectations for your future with these bikes. What part of the US are you in?

Don't answer soon if you feel I'll usurp this bike. I've got too many projects as it is though and one in the 'idea stage' with the seller. That one puts me at 7 unfinished projects, you have nothing to worry from me in that regard.
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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2021, 08:55:23 PM »
Market changes all the time. Guys who remember and treasure these bikes are getting older. Restorations are expensive even if you have all the tools and skills. Much easier to go out and get a fuel injected, minimum maintenance bike and just ride it.

That being said…Check sales history at Mecum and scour Craigslist and eBay for similar bikes. You’ll get a good idea. But there are always a few great deals along with those who believe their bikes are one of a kind gold mines. With over a half of million of them produced, bikes in original condition will bring the best money. Bikes with titles make things easier on a new owner.

$650 Parts Bike - https://newyork.craigslist.org/stn/mpo/d/staten-island-1975-honda-cb750/7423335220.html

$11,500 Nice Original Bike - https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/for/d/rosendale-1971-honda-cb750-k1/7417406316.html

The one you describe appears to be somewhere in between.




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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2021, 09:23:53 PM »
This may or may not be a bike to acquire by pulling out that "extra $500 US Dollars from your other pocket.

Forgetting what's missing, figure on what's present. I'm not going to pretend I'm up on what constitutes a low price for a K0, but if you figure you're a regular un-retired guy living close to paycheck to paycheck like me, and you can confirm this bike is what you think it is, and you can pick it up for cash....it may well be worth the sacrifice.

Latch onto a member wise in the ways, get a cell# and call them while you're with the bike. Text pics, share the vin# and get a good opinion from a member that knows the way forward. This technology wasn't always with us so use it to your personal benefit and buy that guy a nice gift after the fact.

Amitr0 although you haven't been here long, you are asking intelligent questions. I have great expectations for your future with these bikes. What part of the US are you in?

Don't answer soon if you feel I'll usurp this bike. I've got too many projects as it is though and one in the 'idea stage' with the seller. That one puts me at 7 unfinished projects, you have nothing to worry from me in that regard.

I know zilch about mechanics, and since I found this forum, I have learnt so so much, especially from you, somehow you have answered so many of my dumass questions.

I am currently in Seattle.

I intend to learn motorcycles, I love mechanics and don't feel intimidated by the ideal of taking one apart, I lack experience and knowledge though, which, over time will be accumulated.

I hate it when folks cut up these bikes, I really like bone stock, perhaps I am getting old too and want to preserve the past, the legends.

Also, they are mechanically simple to take apart, everything is bolted rather than clipped in plastic.




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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2021, 09:26:04 PM »
Market changes all the time. Guys who remember and treasure these bikes are getting older. Restorations are expensive even if you have all the tools and skills. Much easier to go out and get a fuel injected, minimum maintenance bike and just ride it.

That being said…Check sales history at Mecum and scour Craigslist and eBay for similar bikes. You’ll get a good idea. But there are always a few great deals along with those who believe their bikes are one of a kind gold mines. With over a half of million of them produced, bikes in original condition will bring the best money. Bikes with titles make things easier on a new owner.

$650 Parts Bike - https://newyork.craigslist.org/stn/mpo/d/staten-island-1975-honda-cb750/7423335220.html

$11,500 Nice Original Bike - https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/for/d/rosendale-1971-honda-cb750-k1/7417406316.html

The one you describe appears to be somewhere in between.


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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2021, 09:31:28 PM »
Over on the Vetter Owners Forum a few years back a guy shared some pictures of his "Dad's bike" still in His garage all these years and thought of as only an Old Honda. It was wearing a Vetter Phantom fairing, which predates all Windjammers by 4? years?
It was an early 69 Sandcast serial number with custom paint and pinstriping matching the bike to the fairing, and his dad kept handwritten ride records if I'm not mistaken. We suggested that that bike might fetch some record price at auction but the owner, he'd apparently made good educational and career choices and settled that he'd pass all of this info on to his lawyer "for the future" and that he'd keep Dad's bike where it has been for the past many years, right there in his garage.

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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2021, 12:02:52 AM »
Key thing at this point is to recognize the K0 parts from other parts as lots of years and maybe owners have been able to make changes that affect the bike greatly. K0 parts are expensive. So, if you want a K0 will your bank account and financial situation allow you to get it and keep it as long as you want?
Just fodder for thought...
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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2021, 04:03:44 AM »
Key thing at this point is to recognize the K0 parts from other parts as lots of years and maybe owners have been able to make changes that affect the bike greatly. K0 parts are expensive. So, if you want a K0 will your bank account and financial situation allow you to get it and keep it as long as you want?
Just fodder for thought...

Thanks. Is k0 = sandcast?

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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2021, 04:25:22 AM »
Key thing at this point is to recognize the K0 parts from other parts as lots of years and maybe owners have been able to make changes that affect the bike greatly. K0 parts are expensive. So, if you want a K0 will your bank account and financial situation allow you to get it and keep it as long as you want?
Just fodder for thought...

Thanks. Is k0 = sandcast?
Depends on serial numbers and if the cases are original.
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1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
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1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2021, 04:44:46 AM »
K0 is not sandcast according to Honda it goes
CB 750
CB 750 interim model
CB 750 K1
CB 750 K2
etc till 76 then
CB 750 K6 AND F1
CB 750 K7 AND F2
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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2021, 06:08:43 AM »
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What should be a reasonable price for a 1970 registered cb750. Bike has missing side covers, no front fender, not running. No rust in tank, engine not ceased. From what i gather, single owner, but been sitting away for a while.
We need photos to tell you what it may be worth.
1970 project bikes are selling from $2500 to $3800

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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2021, 06:19:21 AM »
Key thing at this point is to recognize the K0 parts from other parts as lots of years and maybe owners have been able to make changes that affect the bike greatly. K0 parts are expensive. So, if you want a K0 will your bank account and financial situation allow you to get it and keep it as long as you want?
Just fodder for thought...

Thanks. Is k0 = sandcast?

from the honda motorcycle identification guide:...USA
..the original introduction of the 750 wasn't officially labeled a KO....the next model was a K1....
However, honda's official designation does say a first model is a K0....so that's why K0 is in parentheses.
I don't know where there is official mention of an interim model designation. There is "early" and " late".
A 750 K0 can be a sandcast..honda didn't start model year until 1974.
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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2021, 06:22:10 AM »
these sources are good places to find useful history facts. There may be some mistakes. do your own research.

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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2021, 06:34:56 AM »
In response to your original question:

Get more photos, including pictures of the VIN number on the Ownership and engine number if possible. The last “1970 cb750” I bought turned out to be an early Sandcast. They are still out there!

It’s true these bikes are not cheap to restore, but at least with a very early bike, you stand a chance of breaking even. By the way, I do 99% of my own work and “breaking even” usually assumes my labour at $00.00/hour. Let us know what you find!

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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2021, 08:39:58 AM »
Seattle, did you see this on Craigslist?

https://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/mpo/d/black-diamond-honda-cb-750-k1/7414585690.html

He doesn’t have a title for the bike, but is working to get one.

Honda CB750K1 - Nice original bike with 42k miles. Not $5000 nice IMO.



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Re: 1970 750
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2021, 10:36:51 AM »
Seattle, did you see this on Craigslist?

https://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/mpo/d/black-diamond-honda-cb-750-k1/7414585690.html

He doesn’t have a title for the bike, but is working to get one.

Honda CB750K1 - Nice original bike with 42k miles. Not $5000 nice IMO.

I have not, I don't know why this doesn't hit my CL search filter, however I saw the same advert on FB marketplace, and they were asking for 8k for this mc. I had told them then that that is too high a price for this bike and gotten no responses.