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Polishing up the carbs, etc...
« on: January 10, 2022, 11:11:53 AM »
 Doing a carb rebuild and wonder the best solution for polishing up the carbs and keeping them looking good.  Found a local sandblaster but not sure what the finish would look like.  Hand held soda blasters have bad review's.  Any idea out there?  Thanks...

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Re: Polishing up the carbs, etc...
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2022, 12:36:39 PM »
Finish would be pebbled and you would never get them smooth again. Start with 400 or no coarser than 320 and go up to 600 or 800 and then buffer with red and white compounds.
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2022, 01:35:20 PM »
Berrymans chem-dip works wonders on restoring the Venturi body.

A polishing wheel on a bench motor can really make a part shine.
Buffing with nvrdull or mothers adds some short term luster.
For long term protection, there are some clear coatings that can be applied by a powder specialist.

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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2022, 01:53:45 PM »
Vapor honing works but you would need to be very diligent getting the tiny, tiny holes cleaned up.
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Re: Polishing up the carbs, etc...
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2022, 04:56:11 AM »
Vapor honing works but you would need to be very diligent getting the tiny, tiny holes cleaned up.

Ditto, especially on the cleaning.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2022, 05:54:56 AM »
I would go with soda-blasting and then buffing of the aluminum.
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2022, 07:49:30 AM »
Personally, I would have them vapor blasted...


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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2022, 08:16:47 AM »
Personally I would do nothing. As long as the inside is clean, they'll work fine. The outside doesn't need maintenance. Besides, after a couple of rides the rack will be as dusty as before. Been there, done that.
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Re: Polishing up the carbs, etc...
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2022, 06:01:12 PM »
Personally I would do nothing. As long as the inside is clean, they'll work fine. The outside doesn't need maintenance. Besides, after a couple of rides the rack will be as dusty as before. Been there, done that.

I vote with Delta on this one. The carbs will not retain the 'new' finish for a long time due to the makeup of the metal itself: it sooner or later will look a lot like it does today. If you want it to 'shine' a little, polish the #1 and #4 float bowls so they look like you cared. :)
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Re: Polishing up the carbs, etc...
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2022, 09:44:34 PM »
Not sure if vapor honed/blasted has same results for the zinc aluminum blend of the carb bodies. If it doesn't work the same then nothing you do will be very long lasting as has been said.  You could paint or powder coat the exteriors but, in the former it will have to be chemical and fuel and oil resistant enough to withstand carb cleaner and any other solvents it might encounter...
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2022, 06:35:10 AM »
 Using Berrymans or Gunk carb dip and a little pass through my ultrasonic cleaner I have had good results getting nice clean carbs with almost an iridescent sheen and yes unless the bike is a display piece they will get dirty outside on the road.

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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2022, 06:49:31 AM »
WD40 and a soft brush like a toothbrush.
I have seen carbs looking really good after an ultrasonic clean with mild cleaning detergent. No acid.
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2022, 08:59:26 AM »
It always strikes me why so many think they need so much stuff (chemicals, ultrasonic equipment and what not) to clean carbs. A warning for users of ultrasonic cleaners. I cannot find the thread right now, but someone had an ultra small plastic part missing after such a treatment. The part is tiny and is not in any exploded view, let alone that you can order it. He now has a hole in his carb body. Don't overdo it! Common sense is your best tool.
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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2022, 09:18:18 AM »
 If you could see the condition the carbs are on bikes that I buy you would understand why I use a product called carb cleaner. After the dunk I rinse with water and then some minutes in a cheap Harbor Freight sonic before the final blow-out with compressed air.
  What's your magic no chemical treatment for varnish,tar and other crud ?

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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2022, 12:55:15 PM »
I have used carb cleaner or brake cleaner in the past and compressed air from a can, but that's about it. Oh, and once some Yamaha carb cleaner, which was so toxic that the dealer who had given it to me, had it stored in a cupboard outside the workfloor of his workshop. It was also used in workshops to service outboard engines which often are inactive for most of the year. Later another mec commented that that stuff should never have been handed to me, a customer, and that this had been in violation with Yamaha's instructions to dealers. Hence my warning. Thinner is also nasty stuff and not to be used inside.
The oldstyle CB500/550 carbs are so simple - all the brassware is easily removed - that IMO you can do it all mechanically (if that's the right word or... is it manually?). I remember that in the past, I've made inquiries by phone at workshops which offered ultrasonic cleaning. All three were honest enough to stress they could not guarantee success... so I never bothered. After all, I didn't need it and was just curious. But maybe other more complex carbs with acceleration jets and stuff will benefit. At one occasion I discovered not all holes in the needle jets were open. I cleaned them ofcourse, but I have not been able to witness any difference in driveability thereafter. What I do know, is that fuel system cleaners can help. I guess owners of the CB550K3/4 with the newer PD carbs may benefit from a maintenance dose at every tankfill to keep the pilot jets cleared.
I wish I had the link to that thread where someone had his oldstyle CB500 carbs ultrasonically cleaned and afterwards discovered he had a hole in the #1 carb body; something small (a sort of a guide) was missing, possibly dissolved in the aggressive fluid used.
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« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2022, 09:00:43 PM »
I use an ultrasonic cleaner on my carbs. That small nylon guide for the slides could be a problem but I have not experienced that. You need to keep the heat down when doing carbs. I have had several of the brass balls come out. The ones that they press fit into drilled passages. So I inspect every carb for the brass plugs before and after. I had an issue with my RD350 missing a plug and the bike would not run on one cylinder. Lesson learned. If the temp is too hot the expansion is different for the bodies than the brass which would allow them to come loose.
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« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2022, 11:14:00 PM »
Also had pretty good results with berrymans and ultrasonic cleaner when i was rebuilding the carbs.

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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2022, 02:29:13 PM »
I have a gallon can of "carb Clener" (with the little basket inside) from NAPA. They don't always have it, but when they do it's gold. I soak the parts overnight and then use a toothbrush for anything left on them, and then brake cleaner spray to clean it off, as it is oil-based and sticks to the metal big time. It cleans all the way to the shine, if there is one. Not cheap, but works very well.
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« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2022, 07:18:18 PM »
I have a gallon can of "carb Clener" (with the little basket inside) from NAPA. They don't always have it, but when they do it's gold. I soak the parts overnight and then use a toothbrush for anything left on them, and then brake cleaner spray to clean it off, as it is oil-based and sticks to the metal big time. It cleans all the way to the shine, if there is one. Not cheap, but works very well.

Did the same with berrymans and brake cleaner.

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