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K2 throttle cables
« on: February 11, 2022, 08:34:21 AM »
Does anyone have a diagram or photo of the correct routing of the throttle cables In a 1972 CB 750 K2?

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Re: K2 throttle cables
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2022, 04:37:58 PM »
After an extensive search I may have the answer to my question. Does this look right? This is a 1971 K1 750. Anyone else run the cables this way?

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Re: K2 throttle cables
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2022, 07:11:48 PM »
Umm...nope.
On the K1/K2/K3 they run over and alongside the coils so the angle of the cable's threaded fitting matches the angle of the cable bracket where it lands. Yours is a little bit 'low' coming in. and is too close to the spark wires on the coils. Then, when it rains while you're riding and the coil's wires have some age on them, the spark can work its way up the wet throttle cable to the handlebar, making an amazingly tingling sensation in your wet right hand when you grip the throttle firmly on a dark freeway in the pouring rain...in 1987...

I usually set the throttle cables above the tank's rubber mount when installing the tank. This then ensures they don't get too close to the spark wires. Then they usually route naturally into the top cable mount.
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Re: K2 throttle cables
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2022, 08:31:32 PM »
Hondaman.. Any chance of a diagram or photo? I know this subject has been broached several times according to the search function. As far as I can tell there has been discussion but no definitive answer. Perhaps you could shed light with a photo

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Re: K2 throttle cables
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2022, 11:13:35 PM »
Hondaman.. Any chance of a diagram or photo? I know this subject has been broached several times according to the search function. As far as I can tell there has been discussion but no definitive answer. Perhaps you could shed light with a photo
I'll look to see if I have one, maybe in my book's collections. My own K2 is more complicated than stock, as I have some other 'experiments' going on under the tank with some non-stock wiring. It wouldn't help to make a picture of it right now, the cables are wrapped up.
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Re: K2 throttle cables
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2022, 09:31:34 AM »
Thanks for taking the time to look. There have been previous posts on the subject. None of them are very helpful as to how the cables were routed as the bike came from the factory

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Re: K2 throttle cables
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2022, 09:57:56 PM »
Do you have my book? Go to page Appendix E-4 in the Transistorized Ignition section, bottom left image. You can see the termination of the throttle cables there, and that is the OEM version arrangement for [my] K2. The bottom right image shows how they pass under the rubber tank stanchion at the front left side, below my finger. ;)

There's also a "do not do this" picture on page IV-17, showing how I found a return cable routed in a K4 I tore down for the book. That cable had also developed a significant crimp in the sheath, right by the throttle cable mount on the carbs. Another "don't do this" picture is attached below. It shows the return cable coming up underneath the frame crossmember, which puts a real drag on the cable. This one was a +3" longer return cable and the owner was trying to "use up" the extra length somehow, which resulted in a throttle that would hang at almost any speed from a lot of friction in it.

In an old K1 picture I have (photograph, genuine Kodak type) it shows the forward cable coming down from above to enter the forward mount, like you have it in the image above. This later changed, and somewhere I have a Honda drawing of "Throttle Cable routing for CB750K2 longer cable" that came out in late 1972 because it changed when the return cable got slightly longer so that it could route underneath the coils along the frame. The issue at that time was (IIRC) that water was following the return cable during wet-weather riding and it dripped the water onto the coils, causing [potential] sparking from coil wires to the frame or tank under the fuel tank, a non-desirable situation.

I got to experience something like this firsthand in 1986 when riding back from Texas (Midland) to Denver and ran into heavy rains about 9 PM on the way. I didn't have the Vetter Lowers on for that trip, and my legs were getting wet (dumb...) as the spark from the #1 coil was intermittently biting my left leg, just below the knee...that was really an annoying night's ride. :(
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Re: K2 throttle cables
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2022, 04:59:47 PM »
Hondman..... Of course I have your book. It is second only to a 10mm socket as a tool for working on these bikes