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Offline newday777

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Re: Surface Rust on Exhaust
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2022, 09:28:38 AM »
Pull the exhaust off the bike to give full access around the mufflers.
Use the gel Evaporust if you haven't already been using it. Rinse off followed by a chrome cleaner polish(use often for long protection)to protect the chrome.
Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Surface Rust on Exhaust
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2022, 09:39:12 AM »
Well, where the rust is the chrome coating is already gone, so I wouldn't worry about that.

If you've been soldering rust holes shut, you're probably pretty thin all over.

If you wanted to save them, I mean really save them, I'd strip 'em down and repair what I needed to and then send them out for re-chroming. The chromers will make them mirror smooth (well, a good shop will) and then apply the Ni and Cr coatings.

But since it's already started popping through in places, I'm leaning to the side that they are on (or close to) their last legs. The problem with exhaust is that is rusts from the inside out and when you start seeing holes, it's eroded away nearly everywhere.

An advantage to having them re-chromed is chroming is an additive process. Meaning they add metal to the assembly when chroming. they clean and smooth the base material, then lay on a coat of copper, then nickle, and finally chromium. So it will thicken it up ever so slightly. But the real plus is the chrome doesn't see inside or outside of the pipe, it just sees pipe. So it will chrome the interior and the exterior, adding a bit of "meat" and giving more corrosion protection inside where the caustic exhaust gasses pass. Chroming won't save a piece that's too far gone, but it can extend the life of a marginal piece.

If you just want to clean them up, have a go with polishes, rust removers and/or steel wools.  But the rust will come back if you leave it bare steel (which is what it is now and why it is rusting). Since the seam is on the underside of the pipes, maybe consider giving the newly "de-rusted" areas a shot of chrome or aluminum paint to help slow down the return of the rust. At least from the outside in.
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Re: Surface Rust on Exhaust
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2022, 02:17:49 PM »

If you wanted to save them, I mean really save them, I'd strip 'em down and repair what I needed to and then send them out for re-chroming. The chromers will make them mirror smooth (well, a good shop will) and then apply the Ni and Cr coatings.



An advantage to having them re-chromed is chroming is an additive process. Meaning they add metal to the assembly when chroming. they clean and smooth the base material, then lay on a coat of copper, then nickle, and finally chromium. So it will thicken it up ever so slightly. But the real plus is the chrome doesn't see inside or outside of the pipe, it just sees pipe. So it will chrome the interior and the exterior, adding a bit of "meat" and giving more corrosion protection inside where the caustic exhaust gasses pass. Chroming won't save a piece that's too far gone, but it can extend the life of a marginal piece.



Do you have a chrome shop who will rechrome exhaust pipes?
The ones I've talked with won't touch them if they are used fearing contamination from the exhaust residue in the pipes and mufflers.(exhaust gasses have acid in them in the build-ups in the pipes and mufflers which contaminates a batch of chrome)
« Last Edit: June 14, 2022, 03:31:34 PM by newday777 »
Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Surface Rust on Exhaust
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2022, 02:52:49 PM »

If you wanted to save them, I mean really save them, I'd strip 'em down and repair what I needed to and then send them out for re-chroming. The chromers will make them mirror smooth (well, a good shop will) and then apply the Ni and Cr coatings.



An advantage to having them re-chromed is chroming is an additive process. Meaning they add metal to the assembly when chroming. they clean and smooth the base material, then lay on a coat of copper, then nickle, and finally chromium. So it will thicken it up ever so slightly. But the real plus is the chrome doesn't see inside or outside of the pipe, it just sees pipe. So it will chrome the interior and the exterior, adding a bit of "meat" and giving more corrosion protection inside where the caustic exhaust gasses pass. Chroming won't save a piece that's too far gone, but it can extend the life of a marginal piece.



Do you have a chrome who will rechrome exhaust pipes?


Yes, Cen-Tex Plating in Austin did two exhaust systems for me.  It was not cheap or quick! 

https://centexplating.com/
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