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Get the most from stock CB750 exhausts.
« on: December 21, 2005, 06:48:06 PM »
Here's a tip for those of you who like the stock pipe style (4-pipe models), but want a little more midrange pep: find the pipes from the CB750K and CB750K1 models. They had a straight-thru design with glass-packed baffles, needed repacking about every 10k miles or so. These will add almost 10 ft-lbs of torque at 5000 RPM if you rejet properly, which is: whatever size mainjet you now have, raise it by 20 and lift the needle 1 notch, unless you're running K&N air filters, then leave the needle alone.

If you have the K2-K3 pipes, these have 5 chambers in them. Drilling 4 holes of 1/2" diameter in the last baffle (remove the plug piece at the end first, then reinsert the plug piece after the mod), will raise almost 2 HP at 6500 RPM, no other changes needed. Make sure to keep the rubber interconnects between the pipes in place, these help more than you realize at higher RPM.

If you have the K4-K5 pipes, these have 7 chambers in them. They can be modified as the K2-K3 pipes, but the holes must be drilled through the last 2 chambers, which can be tricky because the exit in each chamber is spaced 180 degrees from the previous chamber. There is slightly less to be gained from the K4-K5 pipes because the chambers are shorter.

I like the stock, voluptuous look, myself...I like the quiet, too!

Modification 5/2020: the modern-day gasolines burn much slower than the old-time 1970s fuel: there was another "notch down" of the burn rate around 2015 or so, nationwide (it's all for catalytic convertors). If you raise the mainjet by this much today, it will probably foul the plugs(!). So, if you started with the typical #105 mainjet of the post-K1 era carbs (starting about 3/72), raise it to only #115 and switch the needle to the middle notch instead of the #4 where it probably is now. Drill out the 8 larger emulsifier holes to 0.039" and open the smaller ones to 0.027" or so. This will keep the plug fouling to a minimum with these pipes. Also: don't let the spark advancer over-advance: instead you might even think of backing it off a bit to reach only the lower of the 2 full advance marks at 2500 RPM. It should not reach full advance before 3000 RPM with modern fuels, or it starts spitting back at the carbs, making it run richer than it should.
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Re: Get the most from stock CB750 exhausts.
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2018, 02:28:21 PM »
IMhO there isn't a good substitute for the original pipes in terms of sound or looks. Yes they are heavier but the looks and sound are so unique. I have the "no number" replicas from Yamiya. They needed a little grunt to go together, especially 2-3. They came with the alignment inserts for the crossovers which work well. Money well spent.
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Re: Get the most from stock CB750 exhausts.
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2018, 07:50:15 PM »
IMhO there isn't a good substitute for the original pipes in terms of sound or looks. Yes they are heavier but the looks and sound are so unique. I have the "no number" replicas from Yamiya. They needed a little grunt to go together, especially 2-3. They came with the alignment inserts for the crossovers which work well. Money well spent.
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Re: Get the most from stock CB750 exhausts.
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2018, 08:56:28 AM »
Scoring a stock set of 341’s for my Pandora really completed her for me and oh, that sweet ass low rumble she makes, you have to admit it makes everyone turn there heads when you pull up! :)! :)

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Re: Get the most from stock CB750 exhausts.
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2018, 08:28:44 PM »
Scoring a stock set of 341’s for my Pandora really completed her for me and oh, that sweet ass low rumble she makes, you have to admit it makes everyone turn there heads when you pull up! :)! :)

Wow, what a beauty! You've done a terrific job!
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Re: Get the most from stock CB750 exhausts.
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2020, 10:37:32 AM »
Here's a tip for those of you who like the stock pipe style (4-pipe models), but want a little more midrange pep: find the pipes from the CB750K and CB750K1 models. They had a straight-thru design with glass-packed baffles, needed repacking about every 10k miles or so. These will add almost 10 ft-lbs of torque at 5000 RPM if you rejet properly, which is: whatever size mainjet you now have, raise it by 20 and lift the needle 1 notch, unless you're running K&N air filters, then leave the needle alone.

If you have the K2-K3 pipes, these have 5 chambers in them. Drilling 4 holes of 1/2" diameter in the last baffle (remove the plug piece at the end first, then reinsert the plug piece after the mod), will raise almost 2 HP at 6500 RPM, no other changes needed. Make sure to keep the rubber interconnects between the pipes in place, these help more than you realize at higher RPM.


Your correct on the HM300s I’ve got a pristine K1 with real nice 300s great sound and power
There becoming guide rare these days
IMO K1 is the the next best thing to  a KO....

If you have the K4-K5 pipes, these have 7 chambers in them. They can be modified as the K2-K3 pipes, but the holes must be drilled through the last 2 chambers, which can be tricky because the exit in each chamber is spaced 180 degrees from the previous chamber. There is slightly less to be gained from the K4-K5 pipes because the chambers are shorter.

I like the stock, voluptuous look, myself...I like the quiet, too!

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Re: Get the most from stock CB750 exhausts.
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2022, 10:32:29 AM »
 I have the cmsnl 341 repro's. At the time that was all there was to order. They sound rattly with the end caps in but fairly awesome when removed. I have a couple long drill bits and may try to poke a couple auxillary holes
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Re: Get the most from stock CB750 exhausts.
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2022, 05:27:39 PM »
I have the cmsnl 341 repro's. At the time that was all there was to order. They sound rattly with the end caps in but fairly awesome when removed. I have a couple long drill bits and may try to poke a couple auxillary holes

What makes them sound rattly? Do they have something loose inside?
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Re: Get the most from stock CB750 exhausts.
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2022, 09:05:16 AM »
 I think it's just the end caps catching an exhaust pulse. I last rode it on Christmas eve, came home and took them off. Then went back out and didn't hear it at all. The caps are now in a bag on a shelf, my brother mentioned cutting off the inner ring like he did on his K4.
 When I coated the insides with Eastwoods inside the exhaust paint I hoped it would "glue" anything that was loose in there, I had heard reviews of rattles in them but 6 months ago choices were few. I'll report back when I properly diagnose/cure them, the carbs are K0 and jetted as such.
 
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Re: Get the most from stock CB750 exhausts.
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2022, 02:08:22 PM »
1971 CB750 for the metal Tube that connects the 2 exhaust pipes should it have a gasket or something or does it just rattle around?
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Re: Get the most from stock CB750 exhausts.
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2022, 03:52:55 PM »
1971 CB750 for the metal Tube that connects the 2 exhaust pipes should it have a gasket or something or does it just rattle around?

There is a rubber tube that goes between the two metal exhaust tubes.  It is held there by a metal hose clamp. 
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Re: Get the most from stock CB750 exhausts.
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2022, 05:27:17 PM »
1971 CB750 for the metal Tube that connects the 2 exhaust pipes should it have a gasket or something or does it just rattle around?

 I assume you have a Yamiya exhaust. I think they added the metal tube to ensure the balance tube nipples get lined up properly. And yes, it just rattles around in there.
 Edit' I've had a couple of the no number sets and haven't heard them rattle.
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Re: Get the most from stock CB750 exhausts.
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2022, 09:47:27 AM »
 Edit to above, I have now noticed a rattle noise and cannot rule out the floating metal tube as the cause.  If I have them apart, I may silicone the tubes in place or just remove them.

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   It's not floating tubes, I remember that I made them but they just fell through the balance tube so I didn't do that. And I looked to be sure.
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Re: Get the most from stock CB750 exhausts.
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2022, 05:18:51 PM »
Edit to above, I have now noticed a rattle noise and cannot rule out the floating metal tube as the cause.  If I have them apart, I may silicone the tubes in place or just remove them.

 Edit;
 
   It's not floating tubes, I remember that I made them but they just fell through the balance tube so I didn't do that. And I looked to be sure.
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It's good to know about this rattle thing: I have the first repops (they came out in 2009) on mine, as that was all that was available when my trusty OEM #2 blew a split by the kickstand (like they all do), then well over 120k miles. The repops were rumored to have had a new #2 mold made, with the OEM 1/3/4 pipe molds used. Those fit fine, but the #2 doesn't quite. I just split the rubber coupling because it is sideways in the holes, need to fix something back up in there. I was thinking of making a metal flange and pipe of some sort, tricky to get in there!
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Re: Get the most from stock CB750 exhausts.
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2022, 09:34:20 AM »
 When I remove the end cap on #4 the clicky sound goes away, I'm tempted to open up the center holes but if I remember correctly there is an old 341 cut off end cap in my stash of stuff.  That will be an interesting experiment, when I get time, I'll try it and edit this post.
 I didn't try the old end cap, to be honest I haven't ridden this one since posting. Today maybe if I get off the roof in time.
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