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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #225 on: August 02, 2023, 07:45:06 AM »
After changing the oil in my 750 for almost 50 years I'm trying to figure out how to do so in my BMW K1200GT. BMW is a great bike but it's not so user friendly. Too secretive. ie take it to the dealer, no way.

That intrigued me so I looked on youtube.  Not a particularly straightforward job for sure.  Reminds me of one time we were down at an independent VW shop called Doug's Bugs.  A lady drove up in a Passat.  She walked in and and asked if anyone could tell her where the oil filter was on her car.  We all looked at each other and thought 'silly woman.'  We went out to look and we couldn't find it either.  Turned out it was tucked away where you couldn't see it either from above or below.  I have other stories about veedub's and their engineering.  Worst cars to work on in my experience, except for maybe some Saabs.

I beg to differ - after changing the PCV valve on V70 Volvo.  That is a job and a half.

VW:

Colleague asked me how much time it takes to change spark plugs on a bug.  So I asked if it's new bug or old bug and he said it is an old bug.  My answer was 20 minutes, beer break included.  (I never owned a VW bug, but my dad's first car was 1943 Kublwagen).  Colleague said that dealership wanted $500+ to change spark plugs on his bug.

Turns out an old VW bug for him was pre 2012? or whatever year they made the bug longer  ;D and to change spark plugs you have to pull one injector out. 


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« Reply #226 on: August 02, 2023, 09:33:15 AM »
I beg to differ - after changing the PCV valve on V70 Volvo.  That is a job and a half.

I've always avoided Volvos like the plague, so have no trouble believing you. I've also stayed away from French cars. ;)

VW:

Colleague asked me how much time it takes to change spark plugs on a bug.

My wife had a '74 Super Beetle when I met her.  What a POS that thing was.  Before I came along she had the car serviced at a VW place in Seattle.  Since it seemed like it needed a tuneup every 250 miles, she spent a lot of money keeping it going.  So once I was in the picture and owned a tool box, it fell to me to work on the damn thing.  She told one day it wasn't running right, no power.  Sure enough, it sounded like it had lost a cylinder.  So I started pulling plugs, which went well until the front one on the passenger side.  I had to buy a hinged ratchet to get to it, and then it was a click at a time.  The plug was a long-winded bastard, so it took some time to get it out.  When I did, I found the plug so fouled that you could barely see the electrodes.  It was obvious that the shop had never changed out that plug, and since the ignition system on that car was weaker than the one on my 45 year old Briggs lawn mower, it fouled mightily.  That same cylinder later swallowed a valve, locking up the engine, stranding her in one of the middle lanes of I-5 during morning rush hour.  That was scary.

I could go on and on about what a pain in the ass the car was.  One of its great pieces of engineering was using air pressure from the spare tire to pump washer fluid onto the windshield.  Brilliant.  I've never understood why people love those cars so much.  They are a nice novelty item I guess, and you can hack them up and make an old school dune buggy.  So there's that.
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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #227 on: August 02, 2023, 02:04:09 PM »
I had a split window bug for a time, many years ago. I got rid of it for my 75 Wing when I bought it in 75.
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« Reply #228 on: August 02, 2023, 02:37:37 PM »
Broke open the cam chest on my 2006 Harley Softail.

Putting in a S&S cam and oil pump to upgrade the cam chain tensioners.
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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #229 on: August 02, 2023, 07:53:25 PM »
So I started pulling plugs, which went well until the front one on the passenger side.  I had to buy a hinged ratchet to get to it, and then it was a click at a time.  The plug was a long-winded bastard, so it took some time to get it out.
The old air-cooled VWs were easy to work on for the most part; not sure why you had so much trouble with that plug? There was one or two plugs on the passenger side of my '89 Toyota 3.0 that required 3 extensions and 2 swivel joints to get out, and the oil filter on my 2001 Honda Civic was high up on the back side of the motor, requiring me to get the car high enough into the air to crawl under it and reach up to the filter. A lift would have made that job much easier, but so would mounting the filter on the Front of the motor where it was accessible like my '86 Toyota Celica. ;)
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« Reply #230 on: August 02, 2023, 08:18:22 PM »
Vintage air cooled VW's are very cool  8)
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« Reply #231 on: August 02, 2023, 08:34:24 PM »
Sounds to like it's time to resurrect the 61' VW Bus. A mid engine V8 bus is worth it. My friend used to run a 65' Bug with a mid engine big block Chevy. Let's just say that it was scary fast. 8)
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« Reply #232 on: August 03, 2023, 01:28:23 AM »
Back in the day I wrenched on a harvest combine for a friend in Czech - it had VW boxer engine, not sure of size/year. 
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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #233 on: August 03, 2023, 07:52:11 AM »
Sounds to like it's time to resurrect the 61' VW Bus. A mid engine V8 bus is worth it. My friend used to run a 65' Bug with a mid engine big block Chevy. Let's just say that it was scary fast. 8)

The engine is excellent in the Transporter 'scottly' ;what have you modified for the suspension ?
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« Reply #234 on: August 03, 2023, 07:54:27 AM »
Sounds to like it's time to resurrect the 61' VW Bus. A mid engine V8 bus is worth it. My friend used to run a 65' Bug with a mid engine big block Chevy. Let's just say that it was scary fast. 8)

"scary fast" it must have been;the front axle & brakes on it with V8 power is very scary for me to imagine.
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« Reply #235 on: August 04, 2023, 11:47:16 AM »
The old air-cooled VWs were easy to work on for the most part; not sure why you had so much trouble with that plug?

No trouble, just time consuming.  So time being money to a shop, it was apparent the shop cut corners and didn't bother changing that plug - ever, it looked like.
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« Reply #236 on: August 05, 2023, 05:03:52 AM »
Well, day 3 for me (and a lot of extra hours on top of that after work each evening for Spotty prepping the bike for the engine removal) on the "Spare" Triumph Rocket III. A huge bike, and a huge job, just to get to the back of the transmission to replace the output shaft/cush drive assembly due to worn bearings, after 90,000 miles.

Today we replaced the handlebars, replaced the speedo and tach back to it's original position, swapped the front brake hoses around to better fit the handlebars and bled the master, modified the right hand switch/throttle assembly to take a Harley throttle tube and grips that I'd bought for my Sporty years ago and didn't use, so with a bit of dremel work, it all fit and appears to work well. It took a little while to work out how to "pre-load" the engine mounted clutch pivot before we had any luck actuating the clutch. We're both stupidly proud that we haven't even looked at a Triumph workshop manual to do any of the work at all, although we'd probably have finished it and be riding it by now if we had.

Rocket iii Saturday 5 Aug 2023 1 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

No biggie, we've been enjoying hanging out. Spotty had reinstalled the radiator, so we filled it, realised that we'd fcuked up and wouldn't be able to reinstall the overflow bottle in it's original position, so moved it to the space where the old OEM air filter lived, which is a common spot to hide it when replacing the OEM airbox assembly with K&N filters.   

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Eventually I'll install a nice alloy or stainless "catch tank" and mount it on the crash bar nearest the rad cap, but it'll be fine where we put it today for the time being. Spotty had mounted the headers and loosely fitted the mufflers, and with a bit of adjusting we got them tightened down. Spotty keeps his garage spotless, unlike myself, and I'm constantly impressed that he has a place for everything that he can go straight to, and everything is in it's place. I need him to come and live at my house, and try and make some sense of my garage.

Rocket iii Saturday 5 Aug 2023 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

Anyhoo, tomorrow should see it just about ready to fire up. There are a couple of cable plugs that don't seem to have partners, and there's a "Power Commander 5" ECU modifier that a PO has removed, that I'm tempted to reinstall, as it appears to have some plugs that mate with the vacant plugs in the wiring harness. I installed a Power Commander III on my "In the family from new" Rocket in 2009 and they're a good thing, so I might install it and see if the bike runs, and if it does, I'll find the cable for my laptop and install a fresh tune. More tomorrow. ;D

Rocket iii Saturday 5 Aug 2023 3 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

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« Reply #237 on: August 06, 2023, 03:51:07 AM »
The old air-cooled VWs were easy to work on for the most part; not sure why you had so much trouble with that plug?

No trouble, just time consuming.  So time being money to a shop, it was apparent the shop cut corners and didn't bother changing that plug - ever, it looked like.

I know somebody with the same exoerience - it was a Ford with V6 sideways - the rear bay had original plugs for 150 000 miles and was running poorly. 
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« Reply #238 on: August 06, 2023, 03:51:57 AM »
Took the windshield of the 900 for better cooling of me. 
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« Reply #239 on: August 06, 2023, 09:31:36 AM »
No trouble, just time consuming.  So time being money to a shop, it was apparent the shop cut corners and didn't bother changing that plug - ever, it looked like.

I know somebody with the same exoerience - it was a Ford with V6 sideways - the rear bay had original plugs for 150 000 miles and was running poorly.

Yup, got to pull the intake to get to the back 3, which isn't that big of a deal, but again, it takes time.
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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #240 on: August 06, 2023, 07:04:15 PM »
Saw photos of Ferrari 550 or 575 coupe and more than 1/2 the motor appears buried under the cowl and firewall...
Some exotics typically have the entire motor dropped for major service interval on the motor and the bill for that service is eye watering, 1/2 the cost of typical average modern car.
Glad I am not a rich person and don't own a rich person's car like that...
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« Reply #241 on: August 06, 2023, 09:14:52 PM »
No trouble, just time consuming.  So time being money to a shop, it was apparent the shop cut corners and didn't bother changing that plug - ever, it looked like.

I know somebody with the same exoerience - it was a Ford with V6 sideways - the rear bay had original plugs for 150 000 miles and was running poorly.

Yup, got to pull the intake to get to the back 3, which isn't that big of a deal, but again, it takes time.

You'd think they might design a small doorway in the firewall to access maintenance stuff like plugs,etc.
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« Reply #242 on: August 06, 2023, 10:16:43 PM »
Some of the front wheel drive Toyota V6’s had to have the engine mounts unbolted and the engine tilted forward to change the rear spark plugs. They eventually got wise to the issue and installed iridium spark plugs in the rear cylinders but went cheap and installed regular plugs in the front 3 cylinders. I think Mitsubishi did it too. ;D
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« Reply #243 on: August 06, 2023, 10:28:00 PM »
Some of the front wheel drive Toyota V6’s had to have the engine mounts unbolted and the engine tilted forward to change the rear spark plugs. They eventually got wise to the issue and installed iridium spark plugs in the rear cylinders but went cheap and installed regular plugs in the front 3 cylinders. I think Mitsubishi did it too. ;D
A lot of V6 minivans have to do that

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« Reply #244 on: August 07, 2023, 03:53:54 AM »
Anyway, yesterday Spotty and I got the Rocket III 90% back together. We were chasing our tails with an electrical issue, sometime when we put the frame back on to the engine we'd trapped just one wire somewhere and couldn't find it. Considering the amount of vacant power sockets on the OEM harness one little wire didn't make much difference until I accidentally plugged it into a live 12V wire and the engine started cranking!

All we'd had when we hit the button was a soft click from the starter relay, so I'd driven to the auto parts store twice to buy some new relays (3 in total, that will come in handy one day) so I hotwired the little lone unimportant looking black wire (which turned out to be the signal wire from the relay to the starter motor) to the accessory pole on the relay. We turned the ignition on, pressed the button, and it cranked the engine, so we quickly installed the tank, and fired it up. Yay! Just a few small things left to do now, and waiting for some parts to arrive from the US, and it's back on the road again. ;D (and I know how to hotwire Rocket III's, if I ever become a career motorcycle thief..)

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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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« Reply #245 on: August 07, 2023, 06:51:08 AM »
Kudos to Spotty and Terry. No project is daunting enough!

My Massey Ferguson 135 Tractor could use a new clutch soon. That entails splitting the beast in 1/2. If you two were my neighbours and “shop buddies”, I’d be tearing into it today!

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« Reply #246 on: August 07, 2023, 03:15:59 PM »
Kudos to Spotty and Terry. No project is daunting enough!

My Massey Ferguson 135 Tractor could use a new clutch soon. That entails splitting the beast in 1/2. If you two were my neighbours and “shop buddies”, I’d be tearing into it today!

Thanks John, we’re both really happy that it’s a runner again, it had gotten to the stage that it had become so unreliable that Spotty just wanted to get rid of it and knew that he couldn’t even sell it in that condition. The Valkyrie that he’d swapped me for it was in excellent condition but just didn’t do anything for me so I was happy to trade it back, and after replacing the output shaft assembly I knew that mechanically there was nothing else wrong with it, but neither of us knew if it was going to start as the electrical system had been the main issue since he got it. We cleaned all of the electrical connections as we put it back together and I recharged the battery, and at this early stage everything appears to be functioning properly, so I’m hoping that it’s as reliable as my “Owned since new” R3 has been ever since Triumph fixed the OP shaft issue.

 I’ve got a minty pair of sidecovers in the original red coming from the Us to replace the ones a previous owner painted matt black and cut a hole in one to install a new ignition switch, plus some OEM headlight brackets, horn and chrome horn cover, so it’ll look a lot better too. ;D
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« Reply #247 on: August 12, 2023, 02:44:46 PM »
got the MZ taken apart..it had some korosion and rust..so needet to be taken care of...they are started to get expensive bikes..a few years ago..yoy got them for free..but nowdays they are as crazy preised as all others bikes  mine is a 1969 es-150-1..the aluminium is aa kind of magenesium/or a mix...så velding is just a flaming exoplsion...make reparirs non eksistent..so have to get some parts from germany

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« Reply #248 on: August 12, 2023, 03:56:40 PM »
That's a nice cat strynboen.
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« Reply #249 on: August 13, 2023, 08:07:22 PM »
I bought my 1990 CBR1000F on October 4th, 1990 from Hartley Motors in Wasilla, AK.  There is a bit of a story about how that came to be, but probably only of interest to me.  I brought it, along with an '87 GSX-R1100 (gone and still missed) and the faithful 750F to Idaho in 1993.  It had been my touring bike until a few years ago, along with the R100GS-PD.  It has over 73,000 miles on it, mostly touring.  It has been all over the western U.S. and as far east as Louisiana, and is featured quite a bit in the interesting roads thread.  But it hasn't been on any long rides since 2017 when a series of mishaps befell it.  No crashes, but problems that became show-stoppers that I had to work through.  It has been sitting for two years because it developed a hanging idle between 2500-3000 RPM.  Speed in sixth gear at that RPM is 45-50 mph.  Made it interesting going into corners on tight roads, for sure.  CV carbs made it likely a vacuum leak was the culprit because nothing was sticking.  So last week I got into the carbs to see what I could discover.

To my eye, the second generation CBR1000F in this paint scheme is one of Honda's prettiest bikes, I think second only to the RC30.  But it is homely with its clothes off -



This bike isn't the worst I've seen to get to the carbs on a perimeter framed bike.  I've had them off a few times before, so I had practice -



They were surprising clean on the outside, a benefit of living inside a plastic cocoon, I reckon.




It got a little fiddly getting to this point, as well as putting them back together -



First thing I found was all the 33 year old o-rings were hard and crumbly.  To be expected and what I hoped would be the problem -


The problem with this old bike is that so many parts are no longer available from Honda.  And the bad thing is that many of those parts are rubber and plastic.  They sold the t-joints as a set with the o-rings, and are not included in their ridiculously expensive "rebuild kit".  I was able to find o-rings that were close enough in an o-ring kt I had on hand, but here is what may be the ultimate showstopper for the bike - the vacuum chamber diaphragms.  They have been NLA for years.  These don't have any holes or cracks, but it is just a matter of time.  They have shrunk a little bit, are wrinkly, and seem a little stiff.  I had no choice but to glue the edges to the top of the carb bodies with a thin layer of Permetex Gray to hold them in place until the top plates were reinstalled.  And hope for the best.


Got them back together and back in the bike.  The next thing to do was get my extremely hazardous mercury carb synch tool out that has killed me many times.  The bike started and idled horribly but was soon running smoothly, just like I remembered from the good old days.


I could tell right away, even before the carbs were synched, that it was going to be OK.  Sure enough, no more hanging idle.  I took it for some rides the last few days and it is back to its brilliant old self.  It is good to have it back.  There have been a lot of memories and adventures associated with this bike -



Greg
'75 CB750F

"I would rather have questions I cannot answer than answers I cannot question." - Dr. Wei-Hock Soon