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I bought a beater with plans for a little paint and polish to make it a daily rider.

Tried polishing the rims and the steel came through so I planned to have'em rechromed at $90 a piece but found cracks around the spoke holes. No big deal, I can get a set on e-bay for a reasonable price.

Year and a 1/2 later the frame has been powdercoated, bought new Buchanans stainless spokes, bought a new fork assembly cause the original was pitted so badly it wasn't rebuildable. Got stainless bolts because the originals were so badly rusted.

While the engine is waiting for the piston rings to arrive to be put together I started to make a mental list of the things still to fix:
   New seat
   Left side cover
   Shocks
   Throttle and clutch cables
   Mirrors
   Turnsignals
   Handlebars
   Front fender
   Steering head bearings

After that I can go to the painting and polishing to have my daily rider.

For a lot less I could have had the ZRX I wanted but would have been hard to explain to the wife why I need a $4000 toy when she's driving a $2500 car.

So the plan was to buy the beater and slowly sink a ton of cash into it and have a cool bike no one else in town has.

So it's been a year and a half and I'm looking at another 1-1.5 years before it's complete and I'm feeling pretty stupid right now.



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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2007, 12:43:10 PM »
I do feel your pain buddy...

I bought my CB750 as a to and from work bike, and then I found Carpy's site in the net  ::)
I was lucky that I wanted more of a rat/hooligan bike rather then a restored stocker (cash wise).
Where other people are paying big cash for new/old stock parts, I spraypaint and scotchbrite my stuff to get the look I am after..Plus the bike was in running condition, so I could "build" as I rode..

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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2007, 12:53:41 PM »
Rhinoracer,
You're not alone on this path! I bought a bunch of "junk" K stuff from a guy for $200 and was given a rough frame for a '71. Almost 2 years now and I discovering how espensive it may be to rebuild a locked '70 motor. It all started when I finished the clean up on my other '71 and wondered what to do with the '69 speedo and tach I found in the boxes of junk. I haven't kept track of the money I've spent. Afraid to.
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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2007, 01:12:20 PM »
one thing leads to another don't it?.....and after a while you just say F@$@# it and quit keeping track.....doh!   ;D  ;)
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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2007, 01:28:45 PM »
It's like the old "Replace the rotted board on the front porch" analogy. You tear out one board with the intention of replacing only it, then you see a few more rotted board under it and decide to replace them too. Next thing you know you've rebuilt the entire front porch.

My CB750 is slowly turning into a new front porch...
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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2007, 01:29:16 PM »
I was a bit luckier. I bought something that I could get running and ride on agfter a couple of weeks work. I have been in the running restoration phase and probably will be forever. Each year I do a few upgrades, some cosmetic and some functional. This year I have put a Dyna S on her, replace all of the cables with Motion Pro, repalce the cheap chain I bought, and maybe the wheel bearings. Over a five year period I have probably bled as much as you have except for the engine work. I guess it will be an ongoing expense for me. Since you seem to be doing everything at once, you may get a pass for a couple of years.
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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2007, 01:35:04 PM »
The problem is it becomes obsessive. I'm a long ways away from riding my current project and have a line on a K0 that is not complete but looks good. I want it. The wife doesn't understand and doesn't respond well to questions about the number of pairs of shoes she has. When I was hookesd on salmon fishing she didn't understand why I needed more than one fishing rod. Same discussion.
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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2007, 01:46:20 PM »
 Never done

 Had my current bike for years, change this, change that, work on it, and change something else. Originally figured I'd paint and polish it and call it good, shows what I know! Start out with a picture in my head, then halfway to realization, decide it would look better this way so, halfway there.....

 My old mustang, I had it for about 14 years, never 'finished' it, 3 different engines, 4 transmissions, 3 different interiors, 2 axles, three different sets of gears, and 6 different colors.  It was driveable and kicked butt all the time I owned it, but always had something else I wanted to try with it. Get it all painted, drive it, then look at it and say, you know, it would look real sweet with a set of split chrome bumpers like a 63 vette, and I bet I could do something with the tail lights too....

 Bought an old lathe that needed some work on it, got it all running good and turning true, then traded it off on another lathe that needed work on it, now I have 3 lathes and two mills in the garage and whenever I think of making room for more junk, I mean projects, it's always the finished stuff I think about trading off.

 My friends all say I like the project more than the finished product, and in truth, I think they're onto something, I mean for the time, effort and money I put into my projects I could buuy new and be ahead, but it wouldn't be the same.

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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2007, 02:22:21 PM »
You could also spend $5000 - $20000 on a new bike (Harley, sportsbike etc etc) and still feel pretty stupid when you turn up at Bike night, around town etc and everyone has the same bike as you  ::). At least this way you are building YOUR bike and its going to all YOUR work. There is a certain satisfaction in that even if it does leave you poor.....

Good luck in getting it finished!
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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2007, 02:30:14 PM »
Hey Rhino...
I think we have all been there...
My current project has taken a year and still isn't finished...Started out as a fix it up and use it...but you get to the while we are here...let fix this....it never ends...
BUT...when you are done...there is a lot of satisfaction of a job well done...
My LATEST project is a four hour drive away and is 30 feet long...
Here is a link to some picts if you are interested...DON'T even ask how much $$$$s are involved at this point! You just THINK Honda parts are expensive! Just add the word Marine and the price triples! On winch cost more than I paid for my K7!

Just get er done...you will be glad you did.


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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2007, 02:31:05 PM »
OOOOPS...
Here's the link!
Three pages of picts here
http://groups.msn.com/albin-ballad/vagabonddreamer.msnw?albumlist=2

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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2007, 02:41:15 PM »
Sometimes a turd is just a turd. But sometimes you can polish it till it becomes a diamond.
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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2007, 02:58:22 PM »
You have to make it your MISSION. It won't happen unless you push it. Its never ez, especially the last details. When its done and you've ridden it, park it and have a celebratory  beer, its worth it.

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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2007, 03:16:58 PM »
Some guys buy a 7-20 grand Harley, stick 3 grand in the engine and still don't have the HP of a 836cc, cammed, carbed, etc, Honda!! THATS whats cool!!! Plus all the mechanics at the HD shop think MY bike is kick a$$!!! And I love it when they have the free dyno days and I out pull a lot of Harleys with my cb750f!
Keep going on it, don't feel stupid, it will all be worth it when you get to ride it!
The thing about common sense is that, it's not that common.

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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2007, 03:32:24 PM »
I'm in the middle of that with my CB350 twin. Just today I planned to paint myself the seat pan. Just taping the vynil, sand the pan and spray with black. After all, nobody looks in there. I started to pull the vynil and saw how easy was it to remove it from the hooks. Long story short, foam, cover and trims are stored and the pan will go to the painter. How could I settle for less when the rest of the bike has received a lot of attention?

I'm obsessed with it too, but only because my mind have a lot of things to think about: repair the ignition coils, buy new spark caps, gray tacho cable still pending, replace cable sheath with new, plyable one.... and so on and on and on. Planning what kind of things can be left for when some parts are in the painter/plater etc.

I still think that it's more than just a restoration. It puts myself to the test everyday, going back to work, delaying gratification, and testing your patience to see wether you will still keep your high standard or you will settle for less in order to finish soon. Hunting for parts, buying new, shiny parts, each in its individual bag like pieces of a puzzle. Definitely, I could have a better bike with half of the money I've already spend.

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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2007, 03:43:15 PM »
Well, I paid bigger bucks ($1200) for a mostly running bike.  Since then I've put in a few more hundred dollars in parts, countless hours learning to fix the electrics and carbs...and the ride is PRICELESS.

Sunday I pulled up at a light by a guy on a '74 Ducati.  For the minute or so we had we admired each other's bikes and asked the usual questions before the light changed.  That mutual admiration was only possible and enjoyed because we were both riding a couple of beat-up classics.  When I pulled into a Honda dealer later on Monday, a guy walking out stopped and asked about the bike and left saying "that's the bike that changed history".   ;D

Some bikes have been that special.  The SOHCs are definately among them.  Enjoy it!    ;D
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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2007, 03:51:03 PM »
I guess its like buying a 200.00 non runner and spending a year plus and 4000.00 and still want to
keep going on it.



Just DONT keep a running book on what you spend,just enjoy the outcome?



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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2007, 04:04:06 PM »
Hey Rhino...
My LATEST project is a four hour drive away and is 30 feet long...
Here is a link to some picts if you are interested...DON'T even ask how much $$$$s are involved at this point! You just THINK Honda parts are expensive! Just add the word Marine and the price triples! On winch cost more than I paid for my K7!

Just get er done...you will be glad you did.



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 I have a 67 pearson triton, 28ft, it's a working project, ready to hit the water any time weather agrees with me.  But it's another of those almost done then get a new idea deals.

 You're lucky, your boat is by the water, mine's a two hour haul to the big lake, and still an hour drive away to play with it. Lucky for me though, hauling is fuel only, some friends own a mobile home setup company and haul four 53ft steel boats every year, along with all the mobile homes they do, so they look at hauling my 8000lb sail as a way to relax.

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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2007, 05:24:41 PM »
I bought my 74 cb 550 for $200.00, it only had 8500 miles on it and needed nothing more than a carb cleaning and some tires. Did I mention I bought it off of the original owner and it had not seen the sun since 1982. I rode it 2 summers and cut it up to make it what I wanted, that was almost 4 years ago, but I am back on track and vowel to ride it this summer. Hang in there if is what you wanted then you will be glad you did it when your done.

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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2007, 05:51:22 PM »
Thanks for all the kind words. I'm doing most of the work myself which is pretty gratifying.

I'm not planning on doing a resto job or a full tilt cafe racer, but something in between. A stock looking bike that if you look closer it's more than that. I'll post some pics when there's something worth showing.

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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2007, 05:57:16 PM »
Hey Magpie,

I am in the middle of a resto that has my head spinning.  I did not realize how expensive/time consuming a restoration could be.  I would be interested in the 69 Gauges that you mention in your first post if you are consideruing selling them.  The PO of my bike buggered mine up pretty good.  Here is a pic of the teardown process.

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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2007, 06:08:04 PM »
I started with a good 76 550 and put less than $200 into it, including new Dunlop rubber.

But, i sorted out every piece of it with the exception of the transmission.

How much was my time worth?  It was worth every minute.

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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2007, 06:30:16 PM »
Wrenching on bikes is cheap therepy.  In the winter when I cant ride, it's a great diversion.
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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2007, 06:56:03 PM »
Wrenching on bikes is cheap therepy.  In the winter when I cant ride, it's a great diversion.

For sure....except for the days it is just to cold to hold metal tools.... :o :(
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Re: At what point of the rebuild/resto do you start feeling stupid?
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2007, 08:11:25 PM »
It's like the old "Replace the rotted board on the front porch" analogy. You tear out one board with the intention of replacing only it, then you see a few more rotted board under it and decide to replace them too. Next thing you know you've rebuilt the entire front porch.

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Jonesy says it best..........You see one bad board....get yourself ready to fix the whole porch!!!!!
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