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Offline Ellz10

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Ignition Coils for a Points Setup
« on: September 18, 2022, 01:26:59 PM »
I'm honestly just curious if there is a "better" brand or type of ignition coils out there that would be better than the stock Tek coils for my points and condensers setup (with HondaMans transistorized ignition).

The stock Tek ignition coils that I have are obviously old as sin and if there is a better option I would gladly go for it (in terms of both efficiency and reliability), so I wanted to get some thoughts and opinions.
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Re: Ignition Coils for a Points Setup
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2022, 01:36:30 PM »
I'm honestly just curious if there is a "better" brand or type of ignition coils out there that would be better than the stock Tek coils for my points and condensers setup (with HondaMans transistorized ignition).

The stock Tek ignition coils that I have are obviously old as sin and if there is a better option I would gladly go for it (in terms of both efficiency and reliability), so I wanted to get some thoughts and opinions.
I don't know why you think they're no longer good. Decades ago I've replaceded the TEC by Dyna coils and it brought... absolutely nothing. One Dyna coil died within 50.000 kms and - guess what - the old TEC are still alive and test good so I consider mounting them back on again. BTW, replacing the plugcaps can work miracles.
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Re: Ignition Coils for a Points Setup
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2022, 02:16:22 PM »
Simple answer NO THERE ISNT
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Re: Ignition Coils for a Points Setup
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2022, 03:17:52 PM »
I'm honestly just curious if there is a "better" brand or type of ignition coils out there that would be better than the stock Tek coils for my points and condensers setup (with HondaMans transistorized ignition).

The stock Tek ignition coils that I have are obviously old as sin and if there is a better option I would gladly go for it (in terms of both efficiency and reliability), so I wanted to get some thoughts and opinions.
I don't know why you think they're no longer good. Decades ago I've replaceded the TEK by Dyna coils and it brought... absolutely nothing. One Dyna coil died within 50.000 kms and - guess what - the old TEK are still alive and test good so I consider mounting them back on again. Replacing the plugcaps can work miracles.

Oh it wasn't that I thought they're no good, I just didn't know if there was something better in any way out there these days! I'd much rather save a few hundred if stock is better or just as good as anything else!

I am curious though, how would I go about testing these stock ones to see if they're still functional within what's acceptable?

Simple answer NO THERE ISNT

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Re: Ignition Coils for a Points Setup
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2022, 08:19:16 AM »
Consider the coil materials.  Copper windings, copper insulation coating, steel core laminations, and polymer encapsulation. 

Copper failure modes: corrosion when exposed to elements (encapsulation shields from this), melting from heat (overcurrent or external fire), high speed projectiles.

Steel core failure:  same as above.

Copper wire insulation: this is a coating on the wires to keep them from contacting each other when layered.  Damaged by heat (overcurrent or external fire), weathering ( when exposed) , maybe vibration,  high speed projectiles.

Coil encapsulation failure:  weathering, polymer breakdown due to age,   Heat (overcurrent or external fire), high speed projectiles.

So, if the outside encapsulation is intact, the internals are mostly protected for a very long time and function the same as when new if not abused in some way.

I’ve not seen Honda’s choice of encapsulation material to fail yet with normal use.  But, they are not hatchet proof.

The ignition leads are another matter.  The aluminum wire stranded cores are very robust.  But, the outer insulation material hardens with age and cracks when forcibly bent.  As they are molded into the coils, the assembly is rendered useless when the leads crack.   In place, they don’t need to bend, and function fine.  But, servicing the plugs places them at risk.  If they don’t crack too close to the main body of the coil, there are splicers to replace most of the ignition leads.  There are reports that the coils can be dissected to replace the ignition leads.  It’s not an easy process and success in not assured.

Aftermarket coils can certainly work.  But, the materials and design chosen may or may not last the 50 years plus that Honda’s coils have proven to work.

As long as the motor remains in stock configuration, the stock coils work as they did new.  If you increase compression, or spark gap, only then might you expose the need to have coils and ignition parts rated for higher voltage output.
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