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Re: Anybody Own a HONDA VARADERO? I DO NOW!
« Reply #175 on: March 05, 2024, 08:01:17 AM »
20.000km is not much if compared to cars.
I think my car has 60.000km as recommended.

I had to know. Varadero is a much more modern bike than an old CB750.

If the Varadero has fuel injection with oxygen sensor... Correct mix all the time.

If this is correct bike ;D
Inspection every 24.000 km
Replacement: 48.000 km
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http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
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http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Anybody Own a HONDA VARADERO? I DO NOW!
« Reply #176 on: March 05, 2024, 08:11:11 AM »
Per….. I should have looked! Well, after 16 years I guess I’ll replace them anyways. Will be interesting to compare the tips and see if the originals have any wear at all? Lesson learned!

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« Reply #177 on: March 05, 2024, 09:26:14 AM »
Per….. I should have looked! Well, after 16 years I guess I’ll replace them anyways. Will be interesting to compare the tips and see if the originals have any wear at all? Lesson learned!
If Honda knew when they wrote the manual. The should probably add 16 years or 48.000 km. ;D

The old ones can be cleaned for spares. They have around 30.000km left... ;)

If I had your Varadero, I should replace the plugs too, just for sure.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2024, 09:28:53 AM by PeWe »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Anybody Own a HONDA VARADERO? I DO NOW!
« Reply #178 on: March 05, 2024, 09:35:17 AM »
Per….. I should have looked! Well, after 16 years I guess I’ll replace them anyways. Will be interesting to compare the tips and see if the originals have any wear at all? Lesson learned!
If Honda knew when they wrote the manual. The should probably add 16 years or 48.000 km. ;D

The old ones can be cleaned for spares. They have around 30.000km left... ;)

If I had your Varadero, I should replace the plugs too, just for sure.

Per…. Not sure they can be cleaned? The centre electrode is a tiny pin with a very sharp point!

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« Reply #179 on: March 05, 2024, 09:49:51 AM »


Per….. I should have looked! Well, after 16 years I guess I’ll replace them anyways. Will be interesting to compare the tips and see if the originals have any wear at all? Lesson learned!
If Honda knew when they wrote the manual. The should probably add 16 years or 48.000 km. ;D

The old ones can be cleaned for spares. They have around 30.000km left... ;)

If I had your Varadero, I should replace the plugs too, just for sure.

Per…. Not sure they can be cleaned? The centre electrode is a tiny pin with a very sharp point!

My car plugs like that too.Like a needle.
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Anybody Own a HONDA VARADERO? I DO NOW!
« Reply #180 on: March 05, 2024, 10:54:31 AM »
John,does it have 2 valves per cylinder ?
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« Reply #181 on: March 05, 2024, 01:45:13 PM »
Bill…. Four valves/cylinder, fortunately only one spark plug per pot! Massive airbox with a vacuum operated door in the intake. To stop mice looking for a nice nesting spot? Filter was definitely original and filthy.

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« Reply #182 on: March 05, 2024, 01:46:19 PM »


Per….. I should have looked! Well, after 16 years I guess I’ll replace them anyways. Will be interesting to compare the tips and see if the originals have any wear at all? Lesson learned!
If Honda knew when they wrote the manual. The should probably add 16 years or 48.000 km. ;D

The old ones can be cleaned for spares. They have around 30.000km left... ;)

If I had your Varadero, I should replace the plugs too, just for sure.

Per…. Not sure they can be cleaned? The centre electrode is a tiny pin with a very sharp point!

My car plugs like that too.Like a needle.

Per….. they actually look quite good and the gap was right on spec. Probably could have just screwed them back in!

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« Reply #183 on: March 05, 2024, 01:48:07 PM »
Cleaned out 16 years of grime and finished up the chain and sprockets too.

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« Reply #184 on: March 05, 2024, 02:56:50 PM »
Did you adjust the valves?
That original filter Needs replaced.
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« Reply #185 on: March 05, 2024, 06:20:50 PM »
Did you adjust the valves?
That original filter Needs replaced.

Valves are quiet, so left them alone. All the paint splats on the airbox were intact so never opened. Filter replaced and also two small crankcase breather filters in the airbox too!

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« Reply #186 on: March 05, 2024, 07:51:33 PM »
Did you adjust the valves?
That original filter Needs replaced.

Valves are quiet, so left them alone. All the paint splats on the airbox were intact so never opened. Filter replaced and also two small crankcase breather filters in the airbox too!

The valves may be quiet even when they're too tight..
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« Reply #187 on: March 05, 2024, 08:11:32 PM »
Did you adjust the valves?
That original filter Needs replaced.

Valves are quiet, so left them alone. All the paint splats on the airbox were intact so never opened. Filter replaced and also two small crankcase breather filters in the airbox too!

The valves may be quiet even when they're too tight..

I did a compression test and well up on the specs. Don’t want to go there, maybe next winter.

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« Reply #188 on: March 06, 2024, 07:25:44 AM »
Per….. I should have looked! Well, after 16 years I guess I’ll replace them anyways. Will be interesting to compare the tips and see if the originals have any wear at all? Lesson learned!
If Honda knew when they wrote the manual. The should probably add 16 years or 48.000 km. ;D


A couple years ago, my boat was not running normal, idled fine but was way down on power.

Changed the spark plugs and all was fine again!  [Big block Chevy, 496ci] They were 10 yrs old, never changed, we bought the boat new.

So in my mind, plugs are good for 10 years!
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« Reply #189 on: March 06, 2024, 10:12:26 AM »
Per….. I should have looked! Well, after 16 years I guess I’ll replace them anyways. Will be interesting to compare the tips and see if the originals have any wear at all? Lesson learned!
If Honda knew when they wrote the manual. The should probably add 16 years or 48.000 km. ;D


A couple years ago, my boat was not running normal, idled fine but was way down on power.

Changed the spark plugs and all was fine again!  [Big block Chevy, 496ci] They were 10 yrs old, never changed, we bought the boat new.

So in my mind, plugs are good for 10 years!

Steve….. the bike was running great. Here’s hoping I don’t screw in a duff set of “fake” NGK plugs, put it all together, and get a surprise. My local Farmer friends would say “Ain’t broke? Don’t touch it”!

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« Reply #190 on: March 07, 2024, 01:58:13 PM »
Picked up the ridiculously expensive plugs in the pretty red Honda boxes. Got the tank back on (+5 pieces of bodywork). I’d drained the tank and put the “old” gas in my wife’s car so I won’t be road testing it until I pick up some fresh fuel! Oh well, it’s done.

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« Reply #191 on: March 07, 2024, 02:12:33 PM »
Picked up the ridiculously expensive plugs in the pretty red Honda boxes. Got the tank back on (+5 pieces of bodywork). I’d drained the tank and put the “old” gas in my wife’s car so I won’t be road testing it until I pick up some fresh fuel! Oh well, it’s done.

I imagine you may be surprised on how good the bike will run now John.
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« Reply #192 on: March 07, 2024, 02:27:46 PM »
Picked up the ridiculously expensive plugs in the pretty red Honda boxes. Got the tank back on (+5 pieces of bodywork). I’d drained the tank and put the “old” gas in my wife’s car so I won’t be road testing it until I pick up some fresh fuel! Oh well, it’s done.

I imagine you may be surprised on how good the bike will run now John.

Bill….. I only hope it runs as well as it did. I always tell people “I have no idea what 6th gear is for?”. The bike is much faster than me!

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« Reply #193 on: March 08, 2024, 04:39:36 PM »
Filled it with fresh fuel today and fired right up. Even when warmed the idle needed to be turned down a bit so I guess it liked a clean airfilter and fresh plugs! Dropped it off the centre stand and the new drive chain is too tight….. Knock it forward a bit and we are ready for the riding season. Of course we have rain/colder weather coming for the next three days!

With this done (and some fresh gas in the shop), I’ll be firing up the K6 project next week.

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« Reply #194 on: March 09, 2024, 12:32:48 AM »
Road days are coming, John.
That bike must be a nice cruiser on most roads.
Its torque must allow low rpm cruising in 60-100kmh on 6th gear. ( And faster... )
Twist slowly and away, passing slower traffic if stopping you or destroying the sightseeing.

Engine spec:
https://motorcyclemojo.com/2008/11/2008-honda-varadero/

"European reports claim 95 hp and 72 ft/lb of torque."
Probably at relatively low rpm since is a twin with fat pistons.

Here max torque at 6000rpm, a few hp less

https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Honda/honda_xl1000v_veradero_08.html

My K6 with 970cc had 107whp @9230rpm
/68ft-lbs@6870rpm at last 2 dynos late 2022.
Not only good acceleration to +200kmh.
I like cruising on 5th gear without needs to gear down. If not in a hurry, 60kmh and up work fine. I tested from 50kmh (2000rpm) during the carb jetting days.
(Easier to keep the lower speed limits on lower gears)

I do not like to have a car or other vehicle in front of me on nice roads with beautiful surroundings.
Must focus on it before it suddenly slows down.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2024, 12:52:00 AM by PeWe »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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« Reply #195 on: March 09, 2024, 06:31:17 AM »
Per….. Thanks for that article, by a Canadian Tester no less! Never seen it before. They sure seemed to like it. Much appreciated. It’s snowing here today….
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« Reply #196 on: March 10, 2024, 05:15:07 PM »
Drive chain readjusted lubed. Ready for better weather!

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« Reply #197 on: March 15, 2024, 06:30:56 PM »
Did 10 miles today. What a difference the chain and sprockets make. The “drone” I was hearing constantly is gone. Really a typical Honda. Flawless.

The idle is up 100-200 rpm and I have no idea how to lower it! It’s going to get cold again for a while, so put it away, under cover. Back to the K6.

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« Reply #198 on: March 20, 2024, 01:36:46 PM »
So hear’s a good one. Talk to a very experienced tech at my local Honda shop. He said just get it good and hot for a couple of trips and the idle will “fix itself”. Mmmm.

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« Reply #199 on: March 20, 2024, 07:44:21 PM »
So hear’s a good one. Talk to a very experienced tech at my local Honda shop. He said just get it good and hot for a couple of trips and the idle will “fix itself”. Mmmm.

That must be a feature of the computer..
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