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This entire blog is in Japanese but Ive been copying and pasting to translate. This guy posts in great detail with lots of pictures so I wanted to share with you guys. I confirmed a couple things, he did press out the stock cb1100 stem and welded in the cb750 to make the swap happen, he also cut the horn portion of the unicorn mount and welded it to the stock cb1100 top triple to mount the K0 gauges. The bike is wearing the super build maximum titanium 4-4 exhaust and super build maximum swing arm. The tank is the titanium cb750 replica repainted. This might be the best graph Ive seen being able to graph honda with honda and stay modern as hell....the cb1100 is lucky enough to have a custom kit floating out there from a company called whitehouse so the cb1100 front end already has a kit to make it look like the 70s CB...it just all works.
http://moriyasubuildandengineeringpart2.blog.jp/archives/cat_227622.html

all the way at the bottom you'll see a small arrow, thats the next button.

the first page is basically him saying how a customer called the shop who rides a z1 and asked him to build him an insane honda, and then he documents it. towards the bottom you'll see the orange k0 they choose for donor.
cb750 K0 donor
white house front fender, fork ears, maybe boots?
cb1100EX front end, triple, forks, front wheel
cb100EX rear wheel
Yoshimura MIKUNI TMR-MJN32 carburetor
super build maximum swing arm, titanium 4-4 exhaust, and fuel tank
wiesco piston kit/rebuild kit
Öhlins twin shocks

This build took 1.5 years to complete due to the pandemic, they sourced the K0, then the two builders went back and forth about wheel choice, the customer assumed the NSR250 wheels used on the goo bike were going to be on his bike. The builder mentioned many times going the easy route isnt really his cup of tea, advised away from the easiest route, which was slapping on some mag wheels, other front ends and wheels were suggested like cb400f, the builder continued to decline swaps that included parts from smaller cc platforms, the builder also really felt strongly about not mixing manufactures...he wanted to use modern honda with this K0 for what he thought would be the best results.

The rear hub took major modifications, I wasn't able to translate all of it but what i saw was that they eliminated the passenger peg because it needed a wider rim/tire set up, or something? they didn't include the exact measurements or specs on material taken off the hub...they may have used an offset sprocket as well because they were talking about measuring, taking material away, installing again and measuring, basically describing painstaking repetition to get it right...something along those lines. After some progress the customer suggests a used 900cc kit online, then the builders advised against going so large having thin barrels, longevity would essentially be non existent, and using a used kit isn't the best use of money for a build such as this....the customer didnt like that very much, some time goes on and the customer sends a link for a brand new 900cc kit, somehow they convince him to go for the wiesco kit and thats what they used.

The frame was reinforced at the front and rear of the cradle, and at the bottom and top left of the triangles. The tank fork ears and side covers were sent off to paint, and the bike was slapped together. The Öhlins shocks took the longest to show up which was almost the entire 1.5 years, the pistons took about 9 months to show up and during that time he had to defend against the customers onslaught advising him to just use the 900cc kit because it was available and not subject to the pandemic. The aluminum rims were chromed, i think the engine covers were chromed, running dunlop sportmax, 18" front and rear.
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Re: K0 CB750 with CB1100 front end and rear wheel build thread. not mine
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2022, 09:58:50 PM »
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Re: K0 CB750 with CB1100 front end and rear wheel build thread. not mine
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2022, 03:10:30 AM »
Dang that is a sweet build!   8)
Thanks for the translation work.

Do you know where to get the tank and swingarm? I couldn't find anything doing a search......
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Re: K0 CB750 with CB1100 front end and rear wheel build thread. not mine
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2022, 03:49:17 AM »
FYI, no need to cut/paste. Google Translate works fine on that site.
You only go around once in life so it might as well be on a motorcycle.

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Re: K0 CB750 with CB1100 front end and rear wheel build thread. not mine
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2022, 04:16:40 AM »
Dang that is a sweet build!   8)
Thanks for the translation work.

Do you know where to get the tank and swingarm? I couldn't find anything doing a search......

The swingarm is made by Over Racing (Japan). I'd check Webike and Yamiya to see if either sell it.
You only go around once in life so it might as well be on a motorcycle.

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Re: K0 CB750 with CB1100 front end and rear wheel build thread. not mine
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2022, 06:28:45 AM »
direct link to type 1 swing arm - https://japan.webike.net/products/21983410.html

direct link to type 2 swing arm - https://japan.webike.net/products/21983411.html

direct link to titanium tank - https://japan.webike.net/products/21363387.html

direct link to exhaust - https://japan.webike.net/products/24963965.html

everything is around $1500 each plus months lead time.
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Re: K0 CB750 with CB1100 front end and rear wheel build thread. not mine
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2022, 06:47:05 AM »
Nice stuff, I wonder how one would finish the exhaust pipes? I guess high heat paint or just an expensive chrome job.
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Re: K0 CB750 with CB1100 front end and rear wheel build thread. not mine
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2022, 06:45:00 PM »
Nice stuff, I wonder how one would finish the exhaust pipes? I guess high heat paint or just an expensive chrome job.

I often wonder how i would finish them as well. I cant seem to find a vendor selling them in titanium, im sure they are like 5-7k in titanium but ive only seen them on bikes in Japan. I bet chrome here would be another 2-3k or something....prolly just ceramic coat them and call it done....what else could be done?

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Including: Inner brackets,Reflectors,O-rings×4 forks cost 91,000 yen about $660 bucks - https://www.samurider.com/?p=14073/#itemImage
a K10 chrome fender is on ebay for $365 USD, they are $534 brand new.
used set of cb1100 forks for $300-$600
K10 fork boots are 18,000 yen - $130 USD
Assume SOHC head light bucket, and turns signals will work just fine.
Wheels seem like they are gonna cost you 2-3k depending on how much of the building you do yourself.
Dont forget probably goin to fund some machining of rear hub depending on the swing arm you are using.

Front: (an assembled wheel with spokes would be $167 more)
hub $173
rim 183
pulser ring 18
disc rotors 610
disc bolts 11
tube/rim strip 25
wheel spacers 15
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front subtotal $1035 (stock wheel $1202)


Rear: (an assembled wheel with spokes would be $103 more)
hub $280
rim 231
tube/rim strip 28
wheel spacers 26
caliper bracket 97
brake hose 37
drive flange 128
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rear subtotal $827 (stock wheel $930)

If it has to be chromed, Buchanan's chrome spokes and nipples are about $300 per wheel, and $100 per wheel lacing and truing them up, plus the price of chroming the rims (estimated $200-300 each), so another $1200-1400.


« Last Edit: December 15, 2022, 07:55:51 PM by Shtonecb500 »
73/74'' CB500/550 resto-mod - sold
75' 750f 91' cbr f2 swap cafe - mock up
74' 750 chopper hardtail - complete - sold
74' CB750/836kit - Black mix & match - daily rider - always tweaking
71' cb500 K0 survivor - complete
71' K1 - CANDY GOLD/BROWN Winton kit - in process

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Re: K0 CB750 with CB1100 front end and rear wheel build thread. not mine
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2022, 11:56:44 AM »
You only go around once in life so it might as well be on a motorcycle.

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Re: K0 CB750 with CB1100 front end and rear wheel build thread. not mine
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2022, 01:01:43 PM »
How is it you can ship stuff from Japan like this for $85 yet we likely would pay any carrier in the US this much or more to ship it 500-1000 miles here?

Makes very little sense.
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Re: K0 CB750 with CB1100 front end and rear wheel build thread. not mine
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2022, 01:51:17 PM »
It seems the shipping game is just that, if you don’t do your research you’ll get shafted.
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Re: K0 CB750 with CB1100 front end and rear wheel build thread. not mine
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2022, 05:40:59 PM »
I ordered stuff from webike for my ZRX on a Thursday night had it show up Monday from Japan, I love all the stuff they carry but the website is a hot mess. So hard to look up products and confirm fitment as they don’t do year make model… drives me nuts but probably saves me a lot of $$$