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Offline newday777

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Re: Missing crankcase spigot
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2023, 10:27:23 AM »
So I'm guessing you don't have the collection tank under the battery box?
This is one off the early 78 K8 frame I have.
1 goes to bottom of oil tank- vent tube.
2 goes to  lower rear engine case spigot
3 goes to gas tank vent.
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My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Missing crankcase spigot
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2023, 05:12:25 PM »
You are missing the collection box/tank the hoses connect/dump into. It isn't necessary, just run the hoses so oil doesn't hit the back tire.....

Red has 78SS engine and I ditched the collection box happily. I aimed the hose to the chain. 
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Re: Missing crankcase spigot
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2023, 10:53:20 PM »
Perhaps late to the party; original hole (unsure of pic orientation) is indeed a fluid drain for top rear of cases and is to the center from vent nipple (pics are rear of 750F1 and top rear)

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Re: Missing crankcase spigot
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2023, 11:02:37 PM »
 HA! fooled me too.
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Re: Missing crankcase spigot
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2023, 01:07:40 AM »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
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http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Missing crankcase spigot
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Re: Missing crankcase spigot
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2023, 08:13:24 AM »
+9 :-)

So I'm guessing you don't have the collection tank under the battery box?
This is one off the early 78 K8 frame I have.
1 goes to bottom of oil tank- vent tube.
2 goes to  lower rear engine case spigot
3 goes to gas tank vent.

Thanks for that. I may have that collection box somewhere (and if I find it, your explanation will have been very helpful!). If I can't find it, does it make more sense to route both the bottom crankcase spigot and the bottom oil tank vent to atmosphere independent of each other(two separate hoses)? Or keep it as I had it with the two of them connected together (one hose)?
1977 cb750k with original airbox, PD41a carbs, slow jets=35, main jets=120, Delkevic 4in1 headers, 18" Cone engineering QC muffler, 7" headlight, dynatek ignition, ss r/r, clip ons, and ebc front brake rotor. All the rest stock, for now. First restoration, lots to learn!

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Re: Missing crankcase spigot
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2023, 09:57:34 AM »
+9 :-)

So I'm guessing you don't have the collection tank under the battery box?
This is one off the early 78 K8 frame I have.
1 goes to bottom of oil tank- vent tube.
2 goes to  lower rear engine case spigot
3 goes to gas tank vent.

Thanks for that. I may have that collection box somewhere (and if I find it, your explanation will have been very helpful!). If I can't find it, does it make more sense to route both the bottom crankcase spigot and the bottom oil tank vent to atmosphere independent of each other(two separate hoses)? Or keep it as I had it with the two of them connected together (one hose)?
You could connect them to a Tee and then out to atmosphere. I think the bottom of the oil tank is a tube up through the tank to capture air above the oil level.
Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Missing crankcase spigot
« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2023, 06:36:27 PM »
The spigot on the back of the oil tank should be connected to the spigot on the crankcase. On the later tanks, this not only drains any condensed oil from the oil/air separator in the oil tank, it also vents any air from the tank, which is why the spigot is larger than the early tanks with separate vent hoses.
The main crankcase vent is the spigot in the cam cover, which was connected to the "collection" tank, and can be left open to atmosphere, as long as any oil from blow-by doesn't drip in front of the rear tire.
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Re: Missing crankcase spigot
« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2023, 02:44:06 AM »
OK, so I found that collection box. Now to be sure:
1.oil tank vent is routed to bottom crankcase spigot as can be seen in Scottly's image.
2. Gas tank vent goes to #1 on collection box
3. main crankcase vent goes to #2 on collection box
4. #3 on collection box to atmosphere (away from rear tire)

Do I have it right?
1977 cb750k with original airbox, PD41a carbs, slow jets=35, main jets=120, Delkevic 4in1 headers, 18" Cone engineering QC muffler, 7" headlight, dynatek ignition, ss r/r, clip ons, and ebc front brake rotor. All the rest stock, for now. First restoration, lots to learn!

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Re: Missing crankcase spigot
« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2023, 08:34:09 AM »
Ok as to your picture on a 78 K8 like mine is, round canister, top is gas tank, middle is valve cover vent, bottom goes to atmosphere on right frame at the swingarmpivot 2nd pic .
The rear crankcase spigot goes to the bottom of the oil tank (closest to the canister but not connected to the canister 3rd picture)
Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Missing crankcase spigot
« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2023, 11:28:53 AM »
If the filter screen in the canister has disintegrated, just cut a piece of a 3M Scotchbrite sanding pad to fit. I used a green one in mine.

Here’s the page from the Factory Manual, K8 Supplement.

You should get one.
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Re: Missing crankcase spigot
« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2023, 06:30:25 PM »
top is gas tank,

Gas tank? Don't you mean the spigot on top of the air cleaner box? ;)
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Re: Missing crankcase spigot
« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2023, 06:38:35 AM »
top is gas tank,

Gas tank? Don't you mean the spigot on top of the air cleaner box? ;)

For sure that’s what was meant!

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Re: Missing crankcase spigot
« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2023, 11:47:46 PM »
top is gas tank,

Gas tank? Don't you mean the spigot on top of the air cleaner box? ;)

For sure that’s what was meant!

Roger that!
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