Author Topic: Terry's Kawasaki Mach III 500 build. Let the smoke begin..... (Read 13425 times)

MauiK3 · « **Reply #150 on:** March 20, 2023, 02:54:54 PM »

What a haul of stuff!
This will be great fun to watch develop.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #151 on:** March 20, 2023, 07:14:12 PM »

Thanks guys, I don’t know how this is helping me “thin the herd” as I keep saying I need to do, but I couldn’t pass up on a ‘69 H1 with most of the parts, an engine that doesn’t need a rebuild and great paint. I’m going to have to buy some new rims and spokes by the looks of it, but I’ve got a guy coming over on Saturday to buy my Henry Abe wheels that I took off the K2, so that should cover the purchase, and I’ll either have a go at lacing them myself or just pay Jeff to do it.

I’ll have to get over to Trevor in Warragul’s place and collect the exhaust that he generously offered, then see if Keith Davis in the US has turned up a seat, sidecover and a few other parts that are missing. I might contact Marcel in Holland and see if he can restore the speedometer and tachometer, they look a bit knocked around too.

RAFster122s · « **Reply #152 on:** March 20, 2023, 10:35:04 PM »

Marcel doesn't fix the mechanicals, so better make sure they function properly before shipping him the gauges.

Trevor from Warragul · « **Reply #153 on:** March 20, 2023, 10:53:25 PM »

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I might contact Marcel in Holland and see if he can restore the speedometer and tachometer, they look a bit knocked around too.

You can buy the instruments brand new! https://www.diablocycle.com/Kawasaki-H1-and-H1A-Meter-Set-PM114-310-311-MPH.html

(You can also buy a seat base, foam and cover)

I have so many things I want to buy from that site...

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #154 on:** March 21, 2023, 12:44:44 AM »

Thanks for that link Trevor, I'm now a couple of thousand bucks poorer! Well, not yet, I'll wait until the H1 is in my sweaty hands, but then the credit card is gonna melt. They sell complete seats, so I'll have one of them, repro sidecover, better get one, instruments, well, why not, then there's cable sets, lots of shiny nuts and bolts, etc etc. Good to see that they're selling Cruizinimage's piston kits as well as a few other parts I bought from CI. They've just added a 50% margin (CI piston kits $95 USD vs $150 USD on Diablo's site) but I'm guessing that they think they're pretty good quality if they're selling them.

Trevor from Warragul · « **Reply #155 on:** March 21, 2023, 03:39:10 AM »

The rubber elbows from the airbox to the carburetors go out of shape and are very difficult to fit, so you probably need a set of those too! I think the seats are "Out of stock", but all the bits to make one are in stock...

Trevor from Warragul · « **Reply #156 on:** March 21, 2023, 03:42:36 AM »

Also, make sure you buy the grey cables, which are correct from 1969 to 1971!

This is where you can source those: https://www.midatlanticcycle.com/wp/product-category/kawasaki/model/h1/page/2/

The owner is a top bloke.

ekpent · « **Reply #157 on:** March 21, 2023, 05:55:01 AM »

Burn baby - Burn -----

PeWe · « **Reply #158 on:** March 21, 2023, 07:23:23 AM »

I also searched on H1 purchases!

Stev-o · « **Reply #159 on:** March 21, 2023, 07:25:14 AM »

Quote from: Trevor from Warragul on March 20, 2023, 10:53:25 PM

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I might contact Marcel in Holland and see if he can restore the speedometer and tachometer, they look a bit knocked around too.

You can buy the instruments brand new! https://www.diablocycle.com/Kawasaki-H1-and-H1A-Meter-Set-PM114-310-311-MPH.html

Thats a great deal!

I think I paid more to have mine to have mine restored, but would go that route again
[there is a guy in Florida that did my H1 & H2 gauges and controls]

Quote from: Trevor from Warragul on March 21, 2023, 03:42:36 AM

Also, make sure you buy the grey cables, which are correct from 1969 to 1971!

This is where you can source those: https://www.midatlanticcycle.com/wp/product-category/kawasaki/model/h1/page/2/

The owner is a top bloke.

He may be but dont buy carb kits from him! They did not contain genuine Mikuni jets, hope that has changed since my expeariece several years ago.

MauiK3 · « **Reply #160 on:** March 21, 2023, 07:45:03 AM »

Marcel is very good on gauges
Who is the Florida fellow? Have not heard of him.

Stev-o · « **Reply #161 on:** March 21, 2023, 08:01:20 AM »

Quote from: MauiK3 on March 21, 2023, 07:45:03 AM

Who is the Florida fellow? Have not heard of him.

His name is Don Fulsang, he does not work on Honda gauges [I asked].
Unlike Marcel, he will repair issues with the gauge, charges $125 and come with a 6 month warranty.

http://kawi2strokes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3961

ekpent · « **Reply #162 on:** March 21, 2023, 08:18:30 AM »

I remember a long discussion on RB's site on what really is the proper dampening fluid for Kaw gauges. Don't hear too much chatter here on Honda stuff for some reason.

PeWe · « **Reply #163 on:** March 21, 2023, 11:59:06 AM »

Quote from: ekpent on March 21, 2023, 08:18:30 AM

I remember a long discussion on RB's site on what really is the proper dampening fluid for Kaw gauges. Don't hear too much chatter here on Honda stuff for some reason.

There are a few restore threads on this forum about dampening fluid.
I ordered something like this
https://www.modelsport.co.uk/product/core-rc-silicone-diff-oil-50k-50-000-cst-60ml--366830
After I read about it on this forum.
One of the threads about tacho-speedo repair
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,78890.0.html

I have not repaired the K2 gauges yet. I have new faces, black upper covers, glasses, o-rings and the dampening fluid plus a syringe with needle.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #164 on:** March 21, 2023, 12:24:36 PM »

Thanks guys, yeah there will definitely be lots of parts that I haven’t thought of that I’ll need for sure. Luckily the bikes have only cost me what I had in the K2 and the F2, so the initial outlay really wasn’t much, geographically speaking.

Thanks for the info about the gauge reconditioning Steve, I’d much rather get mine repaired than buy repro items, I guess a H1 is a bit like a K0, the value is in keeping it as original as possible.

Trevor from Warragul · « **Reply #165 on:** March 21, 2023, 05:53:30 PM »

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His name is Don Fulsang, he does not work on Honda gauges [I asked].
Unlike Marcel, he will repair issues with the gauge, charges $125 and come with a 6 month warranty.

Don won't work on H1 to H1A gauges. His advice is to buy the Diablo Cycle ones!

Trevor from Warragul · « **Reply #166 on:** March 21, 2023, 06:22:24 PM »

An alternative is to buy gauge decals and do it yourself. I went this route. I ended up buying quite a few wrecked gauges just to get the bezels (1970's Kawasaki trail bike ones were a close match). It required a lot of patience, and was fiddly, and time consuming. When all's said and done, I'd swap over a pair of Diablo Cycle repros in a heartbeat!

MauiK3 · « **Reply #167 on:** March 22, 2023, 02:47:47 PM »

I know many here have done it but crimping that ring just looks very difficult to get looking right for the inexperienced

Stev-o · « **Reply #168 on:** March 22, 2023, 03:04:18 PM »

Quote from: Trevor from Warragul on March 21, 2023, 05:53:30 PM

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His name is Don Fulsang, he does not work on Honda gauges [I asked].
Unlike Marcel, he will repair issues with the gauge, charges $125 and come with a 6 month warranty.

Don won't work on H1 to H1A gauges. His advice is to buy the Diablo Cycle ones!

Oh...didnt know that, doesnt mention it on his thread. Your gauges look great, Trevor!

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #169 on:** March 22, 2023, 03:37:25 PM »

Those gauges look great Trevor. I’ll wait to see what Dion has for me before I start ordering parts, but if the gauges aren’t up to par I’ll buy some repro’s as a temporary measure until I can either find better ones (unlikely) or get mine restored. There’s a really good gauge reconditioner here in Oz, but the waiting list is very long.

grcamna2 · « **Reply #170 on:** March 22, 2023, 03:42:33 PM »

Quote from: MauiK3 on March 22, 2023, 02:47:47 PM

I know many here have done it but crimping that ring just looks very difficult to get looking right for the inexperienced

I agree;unless you have the exact shaped 'Die' to set the orig. trim-ring rounded-top Face into(gauge upside down with the back part of the gauge facing upward)to seal the gauge,otherwise the special rounded edges of that orig. trim-ring may get pushed-in to the wrong shape

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I imagine taking a similar diameter piece of PVC plastic pipe,then somehow,slowly and carefully 'forming' the inside edges of the i.d. of that large PVC pipe to fit the exact shape/curve of the top of that particular trim ring;that way the person can be set-up to do many of those same exact size gauges.
A similar(but completely flat on the business end of it)size piece of the large diameter PVC pipe can be used to tap down & Seal the back edge of the trim ring while is upside down and setting in the lower PVC 'Die':to get it completely & evenly flat and sealed on the bottom.

Trevor from Warragul · « **Reply #171 on:** March 22, 2023, 10:23:48 PM »

The trick is in removing the old bezel without damaging it too much. I used an old screwdriver with a bent tip that was filed into a very fine edge. You need to ease up the bezel, move the screwdriver to the side, ease up the bezel, and do this about 1000 times! The bezel can be easily bent back using a drift, again, a little at a time. Definitely not a job for impulsive or impatient people!

PeWe · « **Reply #172 on:** March 22, 2023, 10:28:14 PM »

A new ring is rather hard. Lack of good tool for it made me to find NOS kmh speedo from Venezuela and NOS tacho from USA.
The prices have doubled or trippled after that.

grcamna2 · « **Reply #173 on:** March 22, 2023, 10:31:17 PM »

Quote from: Trevor from Warragul on March 22, 2023, 10:23:48 PM

The trick is in removing the old bezel without damaging it too much. I used an old screwdriver with a bent tip that was filed into a very fine edge. You need to ease up the bezel, move the screwdriver to the side, ease up the bezel, and do this about 1000 times! The bezel can be easily bent back using a drift, again, a little at a time. Definitely not a job for impulsive or impatient people!

Yes,that OEM trim ring which holds and seals the gauge is difficult to keep in good condition.

I have used an 'old school' paint can lid remover 'hooked' tool(Sherwin Williams)on Nippon Seiki gauges before;it's hardened steel & I sharpen it occasionally.

MauiK3 · « **Reply #174 on:** March 23, 2023, 07:55:16 AM »

It would be great to see a video of someone that knows what they are doing remove and re-set the ring.

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Author Topic: Terry's Kawasaki Mach III 500 build. Let the smoke begin..... (Read 13425 times)