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Offline mr.brandon

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Resistance at plug... spec for cb750k
« on: February 25, 2023, 03:14:49 PM »
I am having some small misfiring issues and have been alerted to the importance of ohm/resistance at plug. I am 1, trying to find out what the spec is for ohms or resistance at the plug for 1974 cb750k bikes. I have 800-1000 ohms per ft. (18inches for each plug) of sparkplug wire, b8ea plugs (no resistance) and boots with no resistance but (may) have to purchase the ngk boots (resistance type) as I am told, when wired in series, the wires, etc. Ohms are added together ie, 800 ohm x 2 1600 ohms? I am trying to figure all this out but, does the ignition have to be on when testing with a multimeter, do you test everything separately like wire, then plug, boot... or is there a way to connect the plug and then test the resistance that you are getting from all 3 at the plugs end? And finally, is that prior equation true and accurate in how the sum is created ( 800 ohm per foot, say 1 ft. A plug, 2 ft. Of wire from the 2 plugs a coil= 1600 ohms+ the 0 ohm (from boot) + 0 ohm from plug = 1600 ohm per plug? Any help is really needed and also really appreciated

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Re: Resistance at plug... spec for cb750k
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2023, 08:56:35 PM »
I would be very surprised if you are getting that high resistance from 1 foot of any sort of conductor.
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Re: Resistance at plug... spec for cb750k
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2023, 09:17:36 PM »
That's what the owner of "ton's performance" is telling me, mr.scunny

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Re: Resistance at plug... spec for cb750k
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2023, 10:00:19 PM »
What coils are you using, and what spark plugs are you using?

A multi meter is called that because it has multiple functions or modes of operation which the operator is expected to know before getting any meaningful information from the unit.

As a voltmeter, it displays the potential that exists between the two probes.  It does not insert any power into the circuit being tested.

As on ohmmeter, it does insert some power into the circuit being tested, and it displays the circuit resistance based on the power the circuit is able to return to the opposite probe.  Any power inserted by other sources will not give any meaningful results on the meters display.

If you are attempting to measure resistance, the meter maker assumes the operator is smart enough to not activate the circuit with any power source not provided by the meter.

Conversely, if you are attempting to measure volts, none will be there unless you do power the circuit or component with its normal source of power connected.

While there are some DC aspects of the ignition circuit,  it is actually an AC circuit in operation, and some very different rules apply to it.  Usually one is first trained to understand DC circuits, with more advanced AC circuit training after DC circuits are understood. The equations are more complex.

The spark circuits on the stock SOHC4 are not well understood by many in this forum.  Many just throw money and parts at it until they are satisfied with a running machine.

Coils are available that differ from the stock specs.  But, with rudimentary resistance tests, the primary side measure near 5ohms.  And the secondary side (Output) measures somewhere in the 14000 to 15000 range.  The stock wires are stranded aluminum core with a resistance so low that ordinary multimeters can’t measure it unless you have a length of 100 or more feet.  The stock plug caps had a nominal 5000 ohm resistor incorporated, with some models having 10000 ohm resistors.  Stock spark plugs had no resistors in them, but you can find some replacements today that do have resistors in them, usually with an R in the part number.

The coil secondary loop resistance for the stock coils, measured from plug cap to plug cap , should be in the 24000 to 34000 ohm resistance range for the SOHC4.  There are many reasons why this is the desired configuration.  And if you only understand DC circuits, they will likely mystify you in explanation.  I have tried here  in this forum to explain,  unsuccessfully.  But, as nothing in the spark circuit operates in a steady state mode (like DC) one has to analyze different bits of time slices to gain understanding, as the parts perform differently in different time slices.

There are lots of sales offerings (and promises) for altering the ignition system. Some are valid, most don’t actually help a stock unmodified SOHC4 engine, beside reducing weight of the wallet carried by the operator.
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Re: Resistance at plug... spec for cb750k
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2023, 11:40:17 PM »
 Very precise TT.
  My meter didn't measure high enough resistance to check with the caps in place. I removed them and measured the coil wire to wire and then checked the caps separately.  Some say the 5K caps may be used with a resistor plug but we probably shouldn't use resistor plugs on a 10,000 ohm cap. Personally I avoid the resistor plugs.
  The extended reach plugs I bought recently had their gaps adjusted by a set of pop up pistons too. On the up side, I now know exactly where on the pistons a fire hole or clearance dimple might be located.
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Re: Resistance at plug... spec for cb750k
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2023, 11:57:02 PM »
i dont trust resistor plugs.