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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #125 on: May 05, 2023, 05:10:49 PM »
Looking good Johnie! It will be a nice running and riding bike when you are done!
Looking like it has been an interesting project as well.
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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #126 on: May 05, 2023, 05:14:39 PM »
I bought parts for my GL1000 carbs from Randaak. Years ago, I think I bought his carb manual and a video too! I think it was a VHS tape. I might still have it? Will have a look.......

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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #127 on: May 05, 2023, 06:25:58 PM »
Ordered my Gates T274 timing belts today. Will take the covers off this week when I get the radiator removed to change the upper and lower hoses. Will check out those pulleys too. All good ideas...keep them coming...
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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #128 on: May 06, 2023, 02:25:52 AM »
Ordered my Gates T274 timing belts today. Will take the covers off this week when I get the radiator removed to change the upper and lower hoses. Will check out those pulleys too. All good ideas...keep them coming...

Here's a pdf on how to rebuild your tensioners with new pulleys

https://www.goldwingfacts.com/attachments/tensioner-rebuild-jcs-pdf.307373/
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My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #129 on: May 06, 2023, 08:03:23 AM »
Looks like a pretty involved carb setup. Sure calls for a manual.
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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #130 on: May 06, 2023, 08:10:19 AM »
Looks like a pretty involved carb setup. Sure calls for a manual.
Agreed...a manual or an expert. Randakk said they also fix a low idle issue that was customary in the first generation Wings.
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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #131 on: May 06, 2023, 08:11:23 AM »
Newday thanks a lot for the info on rebuilding the tensioners. I'll check them out.
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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #132 on: May 06, 2023, 08:28:19 AM »
You know one gets so used to doing the 750's they become routine. It's actually fun to work on something different now.
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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #133 on: May 06, 2023, 05:27:54 PM »
I bought parts for my GL1000 carbs from Randaak. Years ago, I think I bought his carb manual and a video too! I think it was a VHS tape. I might still have it? Will have a look.......
Randakks used to have a tips section on the website 12-13 years ago when I rebuilt my 83 GL1100 carbs. Hopefully they still have it since Randall sold it off to the conglomerate corporation.
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Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #134 on: May 06, 2023, 05:37:41 PM »
Newday thanks a lot for the info on rebuilding the tensioners. I'll check them out.
You are welcome bro.
And yes it is fun to bring back a different bike to life. I've brought back the 83 GL1100, a 98 and a 99 GL1500 and and worked on a few GL1800s.
Today I went and looked at an 85 GL1200 LTD(fuel injection) with 63,000 miles on it.
It needs head gaskets, tires(good treads but from 2000!) and a few body pieces. It'd be a fun ride, But I have half a dozen CB750s in the que to bring back so I may not jump on that wing????? More than enough projects, not enough room for another project, time or money.....
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Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #135 on: May 06, 2023, 06:27:31 PM »
Newday thanks a lot for the info on rebuilding the tensioners. I'll check them out.
You are welcome bro.
And yes it is fun to bring back a different bike to life. I've brought back the 83 GL1100, a 98 and a 99 GL1500 and and worked on a few GL1800s.
Today I went and looked at an 85 GL1200 LTD(fuel injection) with 63,000 miles on it.
It needs head gaskets, tires(good treads but from 2000!) and a few body pieces. It'd be a fun ride, But I have half a dozen CB750s in the que to bring back so I may not jump on that wing????? More than enough projects, not enough room for another project, time or money.....

Stu,a fuel injected GL1200 ?
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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #136 on: May 06, 2023, 10:17:19 PM »
Newday thanks a lot for the info on rebuilding the tensioners. I'll check them out.
You are welcome bro.
And yes it is fun to bring back a different bike to life. I've brought back the 83 GL1100, a 98 and a 99 GL1500 and and worked on a few GL1800s.
Today I went and looked at an 85 GL1200 LTD(fuel injection) with 63,000 miles on it.
It needs head gaskets, tires(good treads but from 2000!) and a few body pieces. It'd be a fun ride, But I have half a dozen CB750s in the que to bring back so I may not jump on that wing????? More than enough projects, not enough room for another project, time or money.....

Stu,a fuel injected GL1200 ?
Yes 2 years only.

1985 GL1200 LTD Gold 2 tone



And also the 1986 GL1200 SEI beige 2 tone

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« Last Edit: May 06, 2023, 10:39:21 PM by newday777 »
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Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #137 on: May 07, 2023, 06:27:10 AM »
Those are really nice Wings. I sold my 2000 SE a couple years ago. Wife wasn't that interested to ride anymore and I really like the 750's. I have to admit these 80's bikes you showed really do have a nice look to them. Sound good too.
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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #138 on: May 07, 2023, 08:02:08 AM »
The older Wings looked somewhat assembled, the new ones look moulded, they seem seamless.
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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #139 on: May 07, 2023, 08:32:17 AM »
I bought parts for my GL1000 carbs from Randaak. Years ago, I think I bought his carb manual and a video too! I think it was a VHS tape. I might still have it? Will have a look.......
Randakks used to have a tips section on the website 12-13 years ago when I rebuilt my 83 GL1100 carbs. Hopefully they still have it since Randall sold it off to the conglomerate corporation.

He's actually a member here. If you can't find the info maybe he can help you out? Seemed like a good guy last time I interacted with him on the twins forum.

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?action=profile;u=57656

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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #140 on: May 07, 2023, 05:20:03 PM »
Got the rediator and timing covers off today. Pics for your review with info from HONDA on the belts. Does the 7-13 mean that is the mfg. date of the belt? If so they haven't been on here very long. No cracks anywhere I can see. Some oxidation in the area and some rust on the OS of the gears. Thoughts?
« Last Edit: May 07, 2023, 05:26:40 PM by Johnie »
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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #141 on: May 07, 2023, 05:22:53 PM »
Got the rediator and timing covers off today. Pics for your review with info from HONDA on the belts. Does the 7-13 mean that is the mfg. date of the belt? If so they haven't been on here very long. No cracks anywhere I can see. Some oxidation in the area and some rust on the OS of the gears. Thoughts?
You can not tell if they are good by looking at them.
If older than 5 years replace them....or do you like Russian Roulette?
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My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #142 on: May 07, 2023, 06:34:18 PM »
So you guys are replacing these every 5 years or does mileage go into the equation too?
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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #143 on: May 08, 2023, 02:57:01 AM »
So you guys are replacing these every 5 years or does mileage go into the equation too?

Mileage is OK if the bike is constantly in use. If it has slept in lack of use for a long time and the rubber hardens with age it sets the curvature to the pulley diameter. That set size comes into play when you bring the bike back to life and each time the belt goes around the revolution, it weakens the belts where it set to the diameter around the pulleys and will break at some unknown time. Is it really worth your saving a few bucks at this time when a belt breaks and you end up with tagged pistons to valves bending valves at minimum and at worst case scenario you get broken valves and I have seen cracks and holes in pistons(split the cases to get bits of pistons from the cases). It's not a pretty picture when a belt breaks on these interference motors.
Not knowing the history of a motor is my first choice to change the belts immediately.
By the way, I've bought belts from Rock Auto for $16 each(might be more now but not what you paid of $50 for 1 belt).  Go to the website and do a search for the belt number.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2023, 02:58:58 AM by newday777 »
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Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #144 on: May 08, 2023, 05:22:53 AM »
I’d replace the belts so you know they are new. Check the tensioner pulleys carefully too. You also mentioned the “0” rings on the coolant tubes? I didn’t and ended up doing them soon after......

The other part that needed attention on my last ‘75 was the water pump. Shortly after “waking up” that bike, the front vent hole started dripping water. These pumps have internal seals that keep oil in the crankcase and water in the pump separate (pump takes it’s drive out of the sump ). Watch it on start up.

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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #145 on: May 08, 2023, 07:36:25 AM »
Wise advice indeed!
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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #146 on: May 08, 2023, 08:16:08 AM »
Thanks much for the insight to the belts. I did order the Gates T274 belts today. The water pump and coolant tubes O rings are coming too. Thermostat they are listing like 7 different ones depending on serial number. What's that all about heat range? So the 19300-PB2-023 is listed at a number of dealers on the parts locator. 
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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #147 on: May 09, 2023, 07:23:52 AM »
Thermostat coming. Quick question which was not answered in my HONDA service manual. The O rings for the overhead coolant tubes...just slide them on or should I be using a little RTV or some other sealant on those. Same question for the 2 bolt mounts that the coolant tubes mate too. Same question for the thermostat housing and lower radiator hose housing. I see Honda only uses an O ring for those...dry or sealant? Water pump housing? Probably dumb questions, but I hate to have a leak when all is done. Thx guys...
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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #148 on: May 09, 2023, 07:47:11 AM »
From memory, I just really cleaned the parts and used a bit of grease on the “0” rings to make sure they slipped in smoothly. No leaks.

I use a bit of sealant on any water pump gasket. Probably Hondabond, and very little.

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Re: Johnie's 76 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow Build
« Reply #149 on: May 09, 2023, 09:45:37 AM »
I bought parts for my GL1000 carbs from Randaak. Years ago, I think I bought his carb manual and a video too! I think it was a VHS tape. I might still have it? Will have a look.......

I did the same, although I got the DVD, which I somehow managed to lose after the carbs were done, although helpfully I still have the case it came in.
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