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Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« on: April 05, 2023, 09:30:48 AM »
New program rolled out last week to report bad driving or law breaking or similar...
60 reports filed the 1st week...

Not sure if it will be a good thing or bad...

https://www.kold.com/2023/04/05/tpds-traffic-watch-sees-over-60-reports-filed-1st-week/?outputType=amp
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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2023, 10:08:45 AM »
So, what is the average response time for calls to TPD?  Will this go up, down, or sideways once the Karen patrol is in full swing. Looks like a B. S. program to me.
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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2023, 10:37:37 AM »
Encouraging people to go around sticking their noses in other people's business is a bad idea. There's enough of that already. There's so many ways it can go wrong.
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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2023, 10:47:14 AM »
Encouraging people to go around sticking their noses in other people's business is a bad idea. There's enough of that already. There's so many ways it can go wrong.
Amen. The outcome of a decade of smearing law enforcement, driving police officers away from these careers, and rising crime as a result. Now, no police so these uber-intellects are asking society to police each other. I wonder where this will lead… road rage incidents? False imprisonment charges? Shoot outs in public roads over texting and driving? Numbskulls will feel empowered and authorized to inject themself into bad situations without ANY standing to do so.

Besides, with dwindling police numbers, what becomes of these “reports”? There’s not a judge that will take civilian eyewitness testimony for a traffic infraction. And a cop can’t charge someone without having witnessed the crime himself lest there be incontrovertible evidence.

Grab the popcorn and watch this sh!tshow unfold.
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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2023, 01:05:41 PM »
I give it another week before the system is completely inundated with bogus reports because somebody is pissed off at somebody else because they feel like they cut them off in traffic, or somebody was going 3 mph over the speed limit. 

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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2023, 02:01:39 PM »
I give it another week before the system is completely inundated with bogus reports because somebody is pissed off at somebody else because they feel like they cut them off in traffic, or somebody was going 3 mph over the speed limit.

That's being uber-optimistic. Maybe that long before they realize what a failure it really is.
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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2023, 02:25:08 PM »
I give it another week before the system is completely inundated with bogus reports because somebody is pissed off at somebody else because they feel like they cut them off in traffic, or somebody was going 3 mph over the speed limit.

That's being uber-optimistic. Maybe that long before they realize what a failure it really is.

I could see it possibly having some effect if they required a dashcam video of the offense when reporting (not handheld cell phone video as they stated in the article), but just allowing anybody to make reports without any kind of evidence is going to be a complete #$%* show. 

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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2023, 03:15:28 PM »
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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2023, 03:31:11 PM »
Does this mean they could send in a video of me making the speed trailer read 99?   ;D

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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2023, 04:50:49 PM »
Does this mean they could send in a video of me making the speed trailer read 99?   ;D

Or me catching as much air as possible over every speed bump!  I mean they're called "speed" bumps, not "slow" bumps. ;D

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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2023, 04:55:41 PM »
Does this mean they could send in a video of me making the speed trailer read 99?   ;D

Or me catching as much air as possible over every speed bump!  I mean they're called "speed" bumps, not "slow" bumps. ;D

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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2023, 05:01:23 PM »
Nothing really new about it. OTR truck drivers have been reporting reckless and erratic drivers that they see on the road to the police for years. They have a traffic watch thing here as well but it's mostly aimed at impaired (drunk) drivers and even then the police isn't going to pull someone over and have them put 10 fingers on the fender just because another driver said so. Not exactly sure how it works but If someone spots a driver that they think is driving erratically, they can report it and their location, if a squad car happens to be nearby then it will follow and if that officer sees the same erratic driving, the officer will then pull the car over to investigate. Just how effective it is I have no clue.
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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2023, 07:34:59 PM »
It has some strict language about false reporting being prosecuted as well as other legalism language. It will net you a ticket if it is clear you are operating a cellphone while driving. Yes, it is sufficient evidence to initiate a ticket with sufficient evidence in video.
It certainly warrants the Karen's of the world to abuse it to the nines and they will...
I wonder if I will get a visit or a ticket from this system at some point...
It is in Tucson limits which TPD enforces, I live outside that limit but get the joy of Marana police and Pima County Sheriff. The firmer rolls up 2-3 cars for any stop and they play rough, readily pulling out their AR15s... But we have stupid people initiating gunfire with the police with regularity. Road rage deaths in Tucson was at least 5 to 7 last year and traffic fatalities are bad enough the US Govt gave the city a grant to help address the problem.
When you are in the top 10 and nearly the top 5 of most unsafe drivers in the nation it isn't a recognition you want.

The California drivers have a deserved rep of pulling lots of aggressive and boneheaded stupid driving actions. The influx of Cali residents whom has moved her is astounding as well. Cali drivers often will make other Tucsonans swear at just their mention. Not to mention that heavy geriatric drivers pool which oftemake slow turns that can be quite dangerous to all. It is a beautiful place to live but driving and riding here is downright dangerous.
The thing that surprises me is these Californians who move here are accustomed to gun violence erupting from traffic, plenty of historic cases documented and yet there is a very high number of concealed carry or constitutional carry people out there and they push their luck. They are just lucky most same people who carry only use a gun for life threatening encounters and don't use them how many Californians apparently do...
Makes me wonder sometimes if a cager is using their vehicle in such a manner to try and harm you would you be justified defending yourself as a rider. The people who do these actions either don't seem to connect the lethality of their actions or they do and that is truely scary.
It is a #$%* show for sure...
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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2023, 08:33:13 PM »
Michigan State Police used to make some pretty good coin pulling over Chicago - Illinois and Indiana drivers coming in from the west on I-94 during week-ends on those people heading very quickly to their properties and condo's etc  ;) They own a lot of nice places here on lakes and shoreline etc. and can be pretty aggressive drivers.

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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2023, 03:02:57 AM »
#$%* i drive all day after day,200/300 clicks per day in local doing dumpsters/skip bins,ya get #$%* heads who might drive 45 minutes a day and think they are good drivers because theyve been driving for 40/50 years,even 20 or 30 years or just passed their license test?its a world wide thing that most drivers are #$%*wits its amazes me how they put their shoes on?you just gotta drive like all the cars and people on foot and those #$%*ing new electric scooter retards and other #$%*s are all #$%*tards,its just the way of the road?i run dash cam all the time have done for years,if your gonna run a dash cam be sure to get a good one with no battery but a capacitor,ive tested the lot over the years,dont get a bargain one itll let you down,the battery type overheat and #$%* up with 10 hour days in the sun full stop.

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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2023, 03:19:32 AM »
Michigan State Police used to make some pretty good coin pulling over Chicago - Illinois and Indiana drivers coming in from the west on I-94 during week-ends on those people heading very quickly to their properties and condo's etc  ;) They own a lot of nice places here on lakes and shoreline etc. and can be pretty aggressive drivers.

I grew up in the Chicago area and can attest to their aggressive driving habits but I guess the same can be said for any large city in the US. The stretch of I-80/94 that links Chicago with northwest Indiana is nuts no matter what time of day or night.
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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2023, 02:50:22 AM »
Encouraging people to go around sticking their noses in other people's business is a bad idea. There's enough of that already. There's so many ways it can go wrong.
Amen. The outcome of a decade of smearing law enforcement, driving police officers away from these careers, and rising crime as a result. Now, no police so these uber-intellects are asking society to police each other. I wonder where this will lead… road rage incidents? False imprisonment charges? Shoot outs in public roads over texting and driving? Numbskulls will feel empowered and authorized to inject themself into bad situations without ANY standing to do so.

Besides, with dwindling police numbers, what becomes of these “reports”? There’s not a judge that will take civilian eyewitness testimony for a traffic infraction. And a cop can’t charge someone without having witnessed the crime himself lest there be incontrovertible evidence.

Grab the popcorn and watch this sh!tshow unfold.


Just like in old, bad Czechoslovakia.  USA is creating socialism step by step.  Next will come street committees.  North Korea could provide some useful ideas, their control system is tuned to perfection. 

On a similar note Pelosi said that Trump has the chance to prove his innocence. Nice twist, it used to be that the court has to prove the guilt.   
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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2023, 03:46:54 AM »
Encouraging people to go around sticking their noses in other people's business is a bad idea. There's enough of that already. There's so many ways it can go wrong.
Amen. The outcome of a decade of smearing law enforcement, driving police officers away from these careers, and rising crime as a result. Now, no police so these uber-intellects are asking society to police each other. I wonder where this will lead… road rage incidents? False imprisonment charges? Shoot outs in public roads over texting and driving? Numbskulls will feel empowered and authorized to inject themself into bad situations without ANY standing to do so.

Besides, with dwindling police numbers, what becomes of these “reports”? There’s not a judge that will take civilian eyewitness testimony for a traffic infraction. And a cop can’t charge someone without having witnessed the crime himself lest there be incontrovertible evidence.

Grab the popcorn and watch this sh!tshow unfold.


Just like in old, bad Czechoslovakia.  USA is creating socialism step by step.  Next will come street committees.  North Korea could provide some useful ideas, their control system is tuned to perfection. 

On a similar note Pelosi said that Trump has the chance to prove his innocence. Nice twist, it used to be that the court has to prove the guilt.
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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2023, 05:12:46 AM »
Encouraging people to go around sticking their noses in other people's business is a bad idea. There's enough of that already. There's so many ways it can go wrong.
Amen. The outcome of a decade of smearing law enforcement, driving police officers away from these careers, and rising crime as a result. Now, no police so these uber-intellects are asking society to police each other. I wonder where this will lead… road rage incidents? False imprisonment charges? Shoot outs in public roads over texting and driving? Numbskulls will feel empowered and authorized to inject themself into bad situations without ANY standing to do so.

Besides, with dwindling police numbers, what becomes of these “reports”? There’s not a judge that will take civilian eyewitness testimony for a traffic infraction. And a cop can’t charge someone without having witnessed the crime himself lest there be incontrovertible evidence.

Grab the popcorn and watch this sh!tshow unfold.


Just like in old, bad Czechoslovakia.  USA is creating socialism step by step.  Next will come street committees.  North Korea could provide some useful ideas, their control system is tuned to perfection. 

On a similar note Pelosi said that Trump has the chance to prove his innocence. Nice twist, it used to be that the court has to prove the guilt.

yep....and her idiotic comment went right over the heads of the uninformed....

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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2023, 11:15:54 AM »
The democrats have stoked the fires of racist pushing critical race theory and other leftist ideologies. Racist was bad in this country in the 50s and 60s and it improved and now has denigrated back into the same old evil again.
Division is rife and it is not good. A house divided cannot stand.
Socialism is a disease and the people that want it slip it in with small spoonfuls to feed it to those who don't recognize the negatives that come with it. We are financing a war that is super costly and the sanctions instituted by weaponizing the Dollar by seizing Russian assets of all Russians has destabilized the dollar from its position of being a world currency and now we are seeing huge movements of other governments to trade in other currencies, the Chinese currency being a huge one they are moving to. The economic fallout of Biden's decision along with many Republicans in agreement with that move to weaponize the dollar against Russian has initiated a ride that is going to bite us in the ass.

The reporting on others is just one evil mark of totalitarian and socialist regimes and it is insidious, sounding like a good idea but it never turns out well.

I don't think the US is going to last a lot longer on our current path.

But that is getting a bit political...
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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2023, 02:52:31 PM »
The democrats have stoked the fires of racist pushing critical race theory and other leftist ideologies. Racist was bad in this country in the 50s and 60s and it improved and now has denigrated back into the same old evil again.
Division is rife and it is not good. A house divided cannot stand.
Socialism is a disease and the people that want it slip it in with small spoonfuls to feed it to those who don't recognize the negatives that come with it. We are financing a war that is super costly and the sanctions instituted by weaponizing the Dollar by seizing Russian assets of all Russians has destabilized the dollar from its position of being a world currency and now we are seeing huge movements of other governments to trade in other currencies, the Chinese currency being a huge one they are moving to. The economic fallout of Biden's decision along with many Republicans in agreement with that move to weaponize the dollar against Russian has initiated a ride that is going to bite us in the ass.

The reporting on others is just one evil mark of totalitarian and socialist regimes and it is insidious, sounding like a good idea but it never turns out well.

I don't think the US is going to last a lot longer on our current path.

But that is getting a bit political...
Sorry

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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2023, 04:04:27 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2023, 11:22:22 PM »
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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2023, 01:53:53 AM »
well thats a bit #$%*ed for us AUSSIES,we aint got any guns no more all over the place,then again we aint never had a school shooting.

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« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2023, 03:20:49 AM »
well thats a bit #$%*ed for us AUSSIES,we aint got any guns no more all over the place,then again we aint never had a school shooting.

You also do not have schools "protected" by sign "Gun free zone". One of the two laws sponsored by Bidet in 47 years in Senate.

Funny, if the sign works, how come bodyguards still carry guns?
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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2023, 04:22:49 AM »
It is not a gun problem it is a heart and mental health problem… criminals and people with evil intentions don’t give a crap about laws and what’s legal or not…it won’t stop them or slow them down.
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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2023, 04:49:43 AM »
The U.S. had more guns per capita than now back in the 50's - 70's , 80's ? +/-...
Teens carried their rifles in their pickups to school.
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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2023, 05:00:30 AM »
An armed and united people can take the fight against a corrupted gang in charge.

Here different, mostly chriminals that have guns. Police and politicians defend the chriminals.
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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2023, 06:12:40 AM »
Back in 1977 when I was a senior in high school our science class was doing some thing dealing with stuffing laboratory critters. I told my science teacher I would try to bring in a couple of pheasants. Next morning on the way to school I hit a roost spot close by and bagged a rooster. Our assistant principal and fellow hunter had noticed my exploits and had me go back out to my car to fetch my shotgun and bring it in to the office so he could make sure it did not get stolen and I could pick it back up after school.  Those days back then were so different then now.  On opening day of small game or deer season it was definitely skip day for a lot of the guys.  :)

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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2023, 11:11:03 AM »
growing up in montana , small town in the 60's  my buddy and i would walk with our .22 's  out to the dump to shoot prairie dogs or just cans and bottles .   high school mine was not the only pick up with a gun or two in a rear window rack .  no big deal  .   the times haves changed a little .

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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2023, 12:16:05 PM »
All that needs to be said…
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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2023, 12:58:02 PM »
+1 to calj737        japan never attacked the u.s mainland in ww11   as one of their top brass said  there would be a gun behind every blade of grass

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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2023, 01:35:02 PM »
All that needs to be said…
exactly....

well this thread has turned....so...
ever see this reported?....bet not..

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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2023, 01:37:42 PM »
and...well...

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Re: Tucson's new "Traffic Watch"
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2023, 01:50:29 PM »
Considering that this thread has gone completely off topic and into strictly politics, I'm going to lock it. 

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