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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #75 on: May 23, 2023, 11:26:32 AM »
Good catch. Sometimes the simplest solution is the best!

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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #76 on: May 25, 2023, 05:18:54 PM »
Now, THAT'S an interesting find! I'll have to [try to] remember that...
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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #77 on: May 25, 2023, 08:02:51 PM »
Now, THAT'S an interesting find! I'll have to [try to] remember that...

I learned something for sure :-). Not sure if I had the new plugs sitting on the end table in my family room then or not. Had I swapped them in I might have never noticed the damaged one.

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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #78 on: May 28, 2023, 08:06:15 AM »
Saturday 230AM alarm 330 work clock in, worked until 11am.
Went for a ride, 50 miles. Getting a lean out WOT about the time I hit 5th gear. Have messed with fuel line routing, still not happy. Have the Proper fuel line on it.

Pulled carbs, split rack and ultrasonic cleaned each carb using a Vevor 1.6 gallon ultrasonic I ordered from Homer Despot. Used distilled water and Simple Green extreme. Added roughly 8oz of the extreme to 1 gallon of distilled.

Worked great. That is an understatement, I was totally amazed at how well the Ultrasonic and the Simple Green Extreme worked. Stuff looked like new in under 30 minutes.


Reassembled carbs and rack with Honda runner parts. Installed new Honda #40 slow jets. Did not replace the rubber on the tops of the carbs, still looked great after 50 years, nice and flexible still. Installed new non Honda rubber carb isolaters and clamps. Fired it up.

That was quite a day, tripped over something messing around and beat myself up a little, took a nap at midnight :-).


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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #79 on: June 02, 2023, 06:43:27 AM »
Front Brake master cylinder was leaking. Ordered a rebuild kit from 4:1. Sandblasted the cyl and gave it a matte black spray bomb job. Found that the 4:1 piston metal portion was .0015" bigger than  stock, would not fit. I just ordered an entire repro master from 4:1 and installed that today. Self bled easily. Took for a spin of about 30 miles. The totality of today is that now I have restored everything electrical and mechanical to good orderly function. Runs and rides really nice.

The rest is purely cosmetic which really aggravates as far as being crusty but my focus was on the more important stuff to begin with :-).

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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #80 on: June 10, 2023, 01:58:11 PM »
Took luggage rack off and installed new 4:1 repro turn signals, chrome polished rear fender.



Chrome polished front fender as well. Bit by bit it is looking better each week :-).

Still getting a weird deal where it seems as if tank does not vent properly, installed a new 4:1 fuel cap and latch and that did not seem to help. That cap has a Philips screw to allow disassembly, need to look and see what they did as far as venting goes.


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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #81 on: June 10, 2023, 02:19:17 PM »
Are the bowl vents all clear?
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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #82 on: June 10, 2023, 06:47:24 PM »
Ah, the Vetter. A ride after my own heart!
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Looks like the Vetter SS?
If the tank seems to be making the carbs go dry, I might suggest a (tricky, be careful...) simple old trick I've used: pop the gas cap loose while riding with 1/2 tank or less of gas inside (to minimize sloshing-splashing) to see if that cures the high-speed runs-out-of-gas issue. Many of the little pressure poppet valves in the gas caps today have crusted themselves to uselessness now, and some are not repairable. I recently had a CB125 with that issue, but it turned out the owner had replaced the gas cap with a non-vented one, so I kept doing this: ride the bike about 5 miles until it suddenly wouldn't run even 20 MPH, then open the gas cap, and away it went for another 5 miles. Finally got an OEM vented cap with the little clear hose that went into the hollow steering head tree's center, worked like new again. :)
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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #83 on: June 10, 2023, 08:41:51 PM »
Ah, the Vetter. A ride after my own heart!
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Looks like the Vetter SS?


I think it's a IV from the exposed turn signal
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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #84 on: June 10, 2023, 10:43:54 PM »
HondaMan, the Vetter SS has the aero style integrated signals, the Type 3 and earlier had separate signals on stalks like seen on the bike. Was the Type 4 also known as the SS. Vetters page if still active would detail the differences.
I don't mind Vetters on some bikes.
I really like the Don Vesco Rabid Transit fairing too.
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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #85 on: June 11, 2023, 01:53:28 AM »
HondaMan, the Vetter SS has the aero style integrated signals, the Type 3 and earlier had separate signals on stalks like seen on the bike. Was the Type 4 also known as the SS. Vetters page if still active would detail the differences.
I don't mind Vetters on some bikes.
I really like the Don Vesco Rabid Transit fairing too.
The 4 is different from the SS. The 4 utilizes the stock turn signals from the bike like the previous models.
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My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #86 on: June 11, 2023, 06:55:13 AM »
Bowl vents are clear, carbs were just split and ultrasonic cleaned.

I have opened fuel cap while riding  with throttle locked and it did clear the problem about as quickly as you would expect the bowls to refill at 60mph and 4200rpm.

Had the OEM cap on that I had soaked in Evaporust, at that time I was not realizing how many parts are inside it and I soaked it assembled. But Friday I installed a new 4:1 brand cap and latch.

The issue is more severe with a tank full on sidestand which makes sense if it is a vent issue.

It is a windjammer II :-). Kinda "belongs" on the bike to me really, I have been riding on that bike with that jammer since the mid 70's :-). The 750's had enough torque to pull a jammer, honestly it for the time period might have been the "best" cruising setup avail really. I have ridden a 450 or 550 for a few miles that had a jammer it IMHO it was too much fairing for the bike. Would be neat to have some dyno data to equate top speed directly to HP, my bike will run 100-105 flat out with the jammer on it.



When I was a kid in the 70's dad had no place indoors to work on cars or motorcycles so the side yard had a couple HUGE Boxelder trees, trunks 36" around and full canopy closure so that was where dad syched carbs and where that windjammer got installed. When I did the corvette red tank and sidecover paint makeover I left the jammer white. When I did the Corvette Cloisonne Blue frame up resto I painted the jammer too, then a couple years later got to know a guy who did the airbrush work for me, for a year or two it ran unbranded :-).

Stock it just had a stick on side marker reflector, I found these lights that fit about perfect. I do not have them wired in yet from where the mice made a condo out of the airing and ate all the wiring, have not ridden it at night yet this time around.




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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #87 on: June 11, 2023, 07:41:52 AM »




The little wad of maybe cigarette filter was really tightly compressed. I fiddled with it and loosened it up some then reassembled. Before messing with it if you tried to suck air through the tank vent orifice it was difficult to get any, not it draws a little more freely. Will give it a spin and see if that has helped.

The OEM cap this is all riveted together, and my original was soaked for 2-3 days in Evaporust.

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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #88 on: June 11, 2023, 08:06:11 AM »
Looks like it should work.
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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #89 on: June 11, 2023, 10:10:49 AM »
Looks like it should work.

I think it did. I went for a 100 mile spin without hopping off during the 100 miles and no issues. One portion was a 15 mile run of 80-85mph on I69 near Auburn, IN.

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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #90 on: June 11, 2023, 11:50:47 AM »
Good job!
What got me thinking of the 'Jammer SS was the map-strap tonneau covers. The first time I saw those was on the SS, IIRC. Everyone bought them after that, just too handy! But, mine is the original 'Jammer (sometimes dubbed "Windjammer I", but was just named the Windjammer), made of 2 fiberglass hand-laid shells, glued together and trimmed as one piece.

I also should have remembered: the SS was the one where the fancy edge-trim pieces finally came with the fairing. The 'Jammer II came without them, like yours.
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After all the years behind mine, I find myself measuring all others against it. My brother, too, who rode his CB500 with the 'Jammer 1 for 48k miles before he bought a G'Wing and gave the 500 to my littlest brother.
His first comment about his G'Wing (Interstate) was: "I liked the Windjammer better."
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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #91 on: June 11, 2023, 03:08:29 PM »
Mine originally had edge trim but I removed it when I painted it. There is a few boat canvas and upholstery shops I have been intending to visit and see if they have anything that would work. I’m presuming that fiberglass boat hulls might have openings that have some kind of molding used around them.

My original snap on covers eventually died, my ma was pretty handy with a sewing machine and I got her to sew those up from some Joan fabrics Naugahyde. Vetter made a hard cover, some may have even locked ? Never cared for them myself.

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« Reply #92 on: June 11, 2023, 03:22:56 PM »
When I painted the fairing 1992ish there were a bunch of cracks around where the headlight shell mounted. I made a ring out of 1/4” lexan and glued it inside, then with that area stabilized I could do body work prior to paint. 30 years later it seems like it was a solid repair lol.


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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #93 on: June 11, 2023, 06:20:54 PM »
My first 'Jammer, a real early version of the I, got wiped off the bike in my 1972 wreck. It separated the outer and inner shells down the right side where it hit the pavement, and sheared off the mounting flanges at the bracket. The bracket was/is fine, though. I went to Craig's shop (an old warehouse in those days, full of hippies laying 'glass) in Rantoul and paid $99 for a "factory second" shell that had/has some marks in the outer gelcoat. Heck, the scratches since then are much bigger than those nicks! It was still the 'Jammer (I) then, so my covers fit it. Today they are getting mighty thrashed, the right-side one is missing 3 snaps.

The 'locking cover' for the right side appeared after someone stole Craig's 35mm camera from his bike (then a Suzy GT750) on one of his trips. It only fits on the III and later fairings, though, because after the "I" was done, the openings got smaller top-to-bottom and a bit wider, and the fairing width increased slightly. When the ABS plastic III came out many abandoned the fairing because it wiggles in the wind at 90+ MPH speeds. The hand-laid fiberglass "I" and "II" don't.
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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #94 on: June 25, 2023, 02:54:32 PM »
https://imgur.com/a/07ldoxj

210 mile round cruise today to Montpelier, IN then back home. Saw a Facebook post where a friend posted a picture of the fiberglass Indian so I decided to check it out. Perhaps every state has a place named Montpelier?

About 800 miles on since waking the bike up from its nearly 30 year slumber.

Found the rough mile mark where I need to flip to reserve, it was just over 140 miles, took 3.51 gallons to refill on side stand. It was not happy running on reserve. Filled it up with REC90 on the last fuel stop about 30 miles from home. Been meaning to try it and compare mpg. Put in 3.18 gallons on that fill which my math shows tank content at E3 3% ethanol after that fill. Might try next fill again with REC90. Doubtful of any mpg gain in a carbureted engine.
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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #95 on: July 05, 2023, 01:47:29 PM »
My chain and sprockets were mileage unknown so I installed a new set.

Old set was 17/48 O ring and new set is 18/48 X ring chain.

Ordered a new spark advancer from 4:1, will evaluate the springs it comes with, I have a set of springs from the advancer on a 73 bike I have, plus my original springs. Will use whatever springs are best. Suspect the stock advancer is hanging up sometimes.

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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #96 on: July 05, 2023, 01:56:58 PM »
 I'm a fan of 18/48 sprockets. Riding at 70/75mph with a 17 front makes me a little edgy.  I prefer to go a little faster than traffic so most things happen in front of me, not coming from behind.
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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #97 on: July 05, 2023, 02:01:43 PM »
I'm a fan of 18/48 sprockets. Riding at 70/75mph with a 17 front makes me a little edgy.  I prefer to go a little faster than traffic so most things happen in front of me, not coming from behind.

I honestly did not remember what I had installed back in 1993. I make a run down I69 near Fort Wayne now and then and speed limit is 70 and traffic runs 80, 17/48 is pretty buzzy at 80 LOL. Have not been up to 80 on the 18/48 yet but it should be better. I usually run 60 in a 55 and it is interesting how your brain gets wired to a given engine RPM and for the first few rides I'd look down and see I was going 62 not 60 :-).

I wouldn't mind trying a 19 front but none avail right now.

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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #98 on: July 05, 2023, 06:39:14 PM »
I'm a fan of 18/48 sprockets. Riding at 70/75mph with a 17 front makes me a little edgy.  I prefer to go a little faster than traffic so most things happen in front of me, not coming from behind.

I honestly did not remember what I had installed back in 1993. I make a run down I69 near Fort Wayne now and then and speed limit is 70 and traffic runs 80, 17/48 is pretty buzzy at 80 LOL. Have not been up to 80 on the 18/48 yet but it should be better. I usually run 60 in a 55 and it is interesting how your brain gets wired to a given engine RPM and for the first few rides I'd look down and see I was going 62 not 60 :-).

I wouldn't mind trying a 19 front but none avail right now.

Bill

I have the 17, 18, and 19T countersprockets for mine, using them according to what I am/was doing.
The 19T usually requires that you have added some torque to the engine, either in the form of an overbore (even 1st oversize is enough) or by porting the heads on the post-3/72 K2 engines (and later, up to K5). It drops the top speed (with Vetter) to about 105, but it feels like a real Overdrive, with the engine purring like it loves it at 80-90 MPH. The highest [speedo-indicated] top speed comes on most of the K2/4 bikes with the 17T front sprocket (all these use 48T rear) while feeling more 'buzzy', and for heavy in-town commuting is my first choice. The 18T came out in the K2 in response to Honda's customer feedback talking about the 'noise behind fairings' that came mostly from the Vetter's incredible impact and sales in those days, which for the first time brought ALL the engine's mechanical noises right to the rider's face: at the then-new 55 MPH speed limit this put the engine at 3950 RPM, just below the 'on-cam' low-end response, so it felt sluggish and required a downshift (or two) for passing. This noise-abatement agenda caused the locked-down rocker shafts to happen (and NOT due to 'broken shafts' as claimed so often in Internet trash articles) and the change in cylinder fin supports from the little pins to the wide casting bosses (in the K4), all to stop radiated noises.

If you go to the 19T, some MUST DO things are:
1. Trim 2mm off the tip of each sprocket tooth (I also trim 1mm off each 18T tooth). This both mimics Honda's specially-made sprockets of this era to quiet and extend chain life, and makes the chain last MUCH longer thru better lubing (see my book for the details).
2. Cut away the rubber on the sprocket cover's stabilizer post. The tips of the non-Honda 18T sprocket will have already ground off about 1-2mm of this rubber, so you will have a built-in guide as to where to cut: remove it all the way to the support post, or the sprocket will do it, loudly! The Honda 18T countersprocket just barely kissed this rubber block.
3. Get the countersprocket(s) with the thicker reinforced inner body. The cheap ones often come with a washer (or two) to space the sprockets correctly with the rear one, but the narrower sprockets also wear the countershaft. Get the wider (thicker) one to mitigate this action.
See SOHC4shop@gmail.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

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Re: My CB750K2
« Reply #99 on: July 05, 2023, 11:20:40 PM »
17 or 18t makes only ca:250rpm difference at 100kmh, 60mph.

My K6 with plenty of torque had no problem with 18, but got 17 to release some stress on the clutch ;D
It has 130/80-18 rear tire, diameter between 4.0 and 120/90.

Rear tire size/profile make a difference.

Bigger 120/90-18 change rather much compared to 4.0-18.  (Lower rpm at a certain speed with 120/90)

The old style modification with 16" rear made more revs. 43t rear needed.
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