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Offline JDrider

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Rear running light not working (solved)
« on: May 05, 2023, 01:31:27 PM »
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When the headlights are on the headlight, front turn signals light up fine.
The rear brake light will light up fine when the brakes are pressed.
I put in a new bulb in the rear.
What is the next thing to check why it isn’t lighting up?
It’s the brown wire correct?
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« Last Edit: May 06, 2023, 11:44:59 AM by JDrider »
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Re: Rear running light not working
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2023, 01:40:48 PM »
Usually the 550 only had front running lights, not rear, running lights. Running lights are the same color wiring as the turn signals but with a white stripe.
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Re: Rear running light not working
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2023, 01:41:56 PM »
Unless you’re just trying to say that your rear turn signals aren’t working. Are you speaking of the light that stays on with the headlight or the blinker?
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Re: Rear running light not working
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2023, 01:44:09 PM »
If it’s set up to have a running light, as well as a blinker, the bulbs will need to be dual filament. Just like your brake light. Brake light has a running light as well as the stoplight, which is a little brighter. In a turn signal with a running light, one filament will constantly be on with the headlight, while the other brighter filament will blink when the turn signal is on.
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Re: Rear running light not working
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2023, 01:59:46 PM »
I’m saying my brake light is supposed to light up when the headlights are on.
It is dual filament.
What is the issue? Wiring?
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Re: Rear running light not working
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2023, 02:06:47 PM »
 No taillight right? Follow the brown wire with a test light to see where the 12 volts stops, there is a plug in under the seat. It could also be unplugged in the headlight bucket.
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Re: Rear running light not working
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2023, 02:19:21 PM »
Ok, I’ll check the brown wire in the bucket. I checked it under the seat.
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Re: Rear running light not working
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2023, 02:24:42 PM »
 No power under the seat I guess? Did you check the fuses?
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Re: Rear running light not working
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2023, 02:29:12 PM »
All lights work correctly.
Power everywhere.
I didn’t realize the brake was also a running light
Until I went to get it inspected and it didn’t pass.
So the only thing not lighting is the rear running light.
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Re: Rear running light not working
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2023, 05:05:16 PM »
Have you replaced the double filament bulb yet to see if that was the problem ?

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Re: Rear running light not working
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2023, 05:06:38 PM »
I did
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Re: Rear running light not working
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2023, 05:28:13 PM »
So it is or not working now ?

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Re: Rear running light not working
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2023, 09:40:05 PM »
The tail light is part of the "park light" circuit and it's a doozy. Also that powers a small bulb in the headlight but only in certain markets. Get a Honda wiring diagram for your model and year and track the circuit down with a meter or test light. Possibly the TAIL fuse or the fuseholder is bad. Or the keyswitch, in P the tail light is powered completely differently than when in ON.

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Re: Rear running light not working
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2023, 10:35:22 PM »
From memory….
There is a jumper at the key switch to power the brown in both the on and park positions.  If your taillight illuminates when in park, check that jumper.

If not find out why the brown isn’t getting power.
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Re: Rear running light not working
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2023, 10:58:24 PM »
The tail light has two circuits for the ignition key switch. In park position, it sends power to the brown wire, which goes straight to the tail light filament.  In regular on position, it sends power through the brown red wire, where it is soldered to the brown white wire somewhere in the harness which feeds the headlight and front running lights. Simultaneously I believe the ignition switch is still powering the brown wire sending power to the tail light so basically the issue is still in the brown wire. Follow voltage from the ignition Key switch to one side of the fuse with the solid brown wire. You should be getting voltage there, the other side of that fuse will send power straight to the tail lamp. There is a bullet connection Under the seat on top of the rear fender with your turn signal connections, green and yellow brake light wire, grounds, etc.  Follow that path. You could test both filaments by reversing The bullet connections (with a jumper is necessary due to female and male connectors possibly being different ) just to test the other filament with the brakes.  But if you’re not getting power on the brown wire, you just have to figure out if it’s before the fuse, or after the fuse. Could be broken wire somewhere, could be on the ignition switch, could be on the back of the fuse panel.  There should be a very linear answer to this problem. Get out the meter.
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Re: Rear running light not working
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2023, 04:44:02 AM »
I will check the brown wire this weekend with a meter.
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Re: Rear running light not working
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2023, 09:43:17 AM »
All fixed!
Luckily I checked the 7a fuse.
It needed replaced.
It’s odd that everything else works except the rear running light when that fuse blows.
Good to know.
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Re: Rear running light not working
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2023, 10:44:20 AM »
Same on CB750 K6 and probably from K3 too.
Rear light has its own 5A fuse, head light 7A.

But, if getting a short in 12V brake light, bike will die when 15A fuse will go.
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Re: Rear running light not working
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2023, 11:39:19 AM »
In other markets it is also the front running light in headlamp( seperate bulb not sealed beam plus 5wat small bulb)
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Re: Rear running light not working (solved)
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2023, 12:12:41 PM »
The round glass OEM type fuses can sometimes 'look' like they're good.. the end cap of the fuse,where you can't see the problem through the glass can go bad.
The fuse block with it's brass connectors can be the problem also;they get over-heated and lose tension to hold the fuse and eventually break off.
I think 'HondaMan' sells a good,new fuse box that's very much improved that will never allow problems like I described.
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