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Offline Steve78CB750F

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Steve's '78 CB750F SS UMS Resto Mod Fix Houston
« on: May 12, 2023, 09:40:05 PM »
In March I bought a 1978 CB750 F SS resto-mod on Bring A Trailer fundamentally on a whim as a birthday present to myself.  One of those really getting old fart birthdays where you are looking for lost youth.  I was sitting at my computer at lunchtime and put in a last minute bid.  I won.  You can all see the bike, the associated youtube video and what I paid for it here:   https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1978-honda-modified-cb750f-super-sport/.  Hold the potential laughter and beatings in writing to me.  I have no previous experience with 750 SOHCs - ownership, technical, etc. but always liked them since I was a kid.  I am a hands on guy with various cars and do HDPEs and have ridden cycles since a kid with a new '69 Mini Trail.  Last bike was a 1981 GPz 550 which I sold in 2008.  Trial by fire.

The cosmetics of the bike are what I wanted / want - a clean UJM SOHC resto mod.  My gut and the photos told me this was a bike that was not in good enough shape or all parts in place to restore as a stock bike.  OK by me, I did not want that.  But, I was thinking it would be running and I would replace all the rubber and other stuff.  The bike was delivered at night, after rolling out of the truck, I tried to start it, cranked over, but did not start.  Exchanged emails with UMS and tried again a couple of days later.  No spark at #4 spark plug, pulled the fuse box cover, main fuse distressed by not severed, looked at wiring and green wire in main harness and connector fried.  Still turned over.  So the main cause appears to be due to electrical / wiring system issues.  The main fuse was / is distressed (but not blown).  The green wire in the main wiring harness under tank and to the rectifier overheated and the insulation has melted and melted the connector(s) and black wrap of the harness.  I am convinced the bike was delivered in this state, I would have smelled the burning insulation and connectors.  The last email from UMS is a disgrace.  Can send to those interested.

I have purchased all new wiring, harness, connectors etc. as plug and play and plan to install.  I have quickly become a major customer for the major CB750 online parts suppliers - thanks to Parts N More, Vintage CB750 - these guys deliver.

However, I need to get to root cause so that I do not repeat the issue.  I need to do some more research before making rambling requests for help from you experienced folks, but if any quick thoughts feel free to let me know.  This thread is the start of that process.

I am replacing all rubber hoses and related gaskets.  I have the battery box, oil tank and chain guard out for access and powder coating.

I have received feedback on how to replace the braided oil lines to and from the engine from the oil tank.  Thanks, guys.

I will now be getting into more details.

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Re: Steve's '78 CB750F SS UMS Resto Mod Fix Houston
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2023, 12:11:51 AM »
Battery likely reversed connection to have the damage you described. Test rectifier before powering bike again as damage could result/continue.
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Re: Steve's '78 CB750F SS UMS Resto Mod Fix Houston
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2023, 04:12:11 AM »
Does bring a trailer not have buyer protection in their auctions? I know that the sellers and the buyers have to pay fees, so there should be a buyer protection for the fees you paid bring a trailer.... I have not bought or sold with them.
Stu
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My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Steve's '78 CB750F SS UMS Resto Mod Fix Houston
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2023, 08:51:00 AM »
That's not so bad, my 74' CB 550 K0 looked like this when I started.
Here it is after I finished.
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1974 Honda CB 550 K0                                            1971 MGB/GT
1975 Honda CB 400F Super Sport                          1972 MGB/GT
1977 Kawasaki KZ 1000 LTD                                   1985 GMC S15
1978 Kawasaki KL 250
1980 Suzuki GS 1100E
1982 Honda CB 900F Super Sport
1983 Honda CB 1100F
1984 Honda VF 700S Sabre
1984 Honda VF 1000F Interceptor
1990 Moto Guzzi 1000 Le Mans
1994 Kawasaki Concours ZG 1000A9
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Re: Steve's '78 CB750F SS UMS Resto Mod Fix Houston
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2023, 02:21:17 PM »
Does bring a trailer not have buyer protection in their auctions? I know that the sellers and the buyers have to pay fees, so there should be a buyer protection for the fees you paid bring a trailer.... I have not bought or sold with them.

nope, don't think there are any protections outside of them doing their due diligence prior to taking the bike onto their platform.
73/74'' CB500/550 resto-mod - sold
75' 750f 91' cbr f2 swap cafe - mock up
74' 750 chopper hardtail - complete - sold
74' CB750/836kit - Black mix & match - daily rider - always tweaking
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Re: Steve's '78 CB750F SS UMS Resto Mod Fix Houston
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2023, 03:26:15 PM »
Does bring a trailer not have buyer protection in their auctions? I know that the sellers and the buyers have to pay fees, so there should be a buyer protection for the fees you paid bring a trailer.... I have not bought or sold with them.

nope, don't think there are any protections outside of them doing their due diligence prior to taking the bike onto their platform.

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Then they should have looked at the wiring  and had pictures of behind the side covers. 🙄
I would be making a stink for false disclosure.
Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A