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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2023, 04:04:28 AM »
after a rebuild ive placed old hard drive magnets on them,i switch them onto the new filters and watch as the debris deminishes,even as you go years they still attract minute metal,lot to be said for magnetic filtration.
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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2023, 05:46:39 AM »
RevZilla has a shop series of videos with Ari Henning and Ari showed that he used and liked a magnetic drain plug as well as a donut magnet that fit between the filters and mounting surface that was thin enough to not interfer with the spin on filters he used. Never seen the ring or donut style before and haven't found a source. Not useful if using stock cartridge filter on our bikes, but would be useful on my modern bike.
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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2023, 02:10:34 PM »
 I bought a couple magnetic drain plugs today from 4-1. A magnetic plug saved my race engines twice, once a mini frost plug looking thing that came out of our oil pump was on the magnet and another time a small bolt came out of the valvetrain and made it's way into the crankcase. Dinged a couple Manley H beam rods and the bottom of a cylinder. It too was on the drain plug, $3K damage instead of $15K. 
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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2023, 01:08:20 AM »
I have used loads of Emgo's also more recently than the 70's...never any problems
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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2023, 05:56:07 AM »
I have used loads of Emgo's also more recently than the 70's...never any problems
Good to know ;)
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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter
« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2023, 08:06:23 AM »
Magnets are great for loads of things!
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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter
« Reply #31 on: June 18, 2023, 07:43:53 PM »
after a rebuild ive placed old hard drive magnets on them,i switch them onto the new filters and watch as the debris deminishes,even as you go years they still attract minute metal,lot to be said for magnetic filtration.

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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter
« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2023, 08:26:34 AM »
After a few E mail discussions, I understand Rock Auto intends to re-sell these to someone else as correct. They insist I am at fault for ordering the wrong items. I am done with them, I believe I have kawasaki filters, maybe I can donate them to a kz guy.
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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter
« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2023, 08:46:10 AM »
The same oilfilters on our CB Fours (and Goldwings) are used by a wide variety of Kawasaki models.
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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter
« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2023, 03:01:18 PM »
 Well, today I tried one of these thicker filters on a 750 engine and it went on with some tightening, I'l leave it there a bit and check to see if I've crushed the filter media if it isn't, the cb obviously has more tolerance than the GL.
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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter
« Reply #35 on: October 09, 2023, 03:22:53 PM »
Oil filter thread! ;D ;D
I had a bunch of Hi-Flo filter before.  A shame I did not find one now. Plus other strange Japan made filters I bought from Yamiya a few years ago.

I like to have such stuff in stock as motor oil, throttle, clutch, speedo and tacho cables. And some boxes of plugs.

I bought 4-5 US gallons of Spectro Heavy Duty 20W-50 2 years ago .

I noticed that I had  2-3 gallons left so visited same seller early this year to buy more before price rallye as everything else nowadays.

Holy sh!t, price +50%!!! >$60US/gallon + shipping :(
So happy I ordered when price was good.

I ordered 10 pack K&N filters from Germany for a good price. Lower shipping each when ordering more.

Engine builds consume some oil and filters when just restored.

I have some good priced 4L Eurol Motor oil too, mineral as synthetic  ;)
I use my stock of Red Line and Spectro as ZDDP additive to 2L Eurol at each change.
My K6 made over 10.000 km last year so 3 changes.

Not too rich carbs now so 5000km intervals can work as long as oil feels good.

Anyway, the too long filter must be a filter to other engines.
A mystery to be solved.

Where are you buying your oil..
Spectro hd 20w-50 is on Amazon for $10.00 a quart.

Surely you can buy from Amazon..?

I’m in the bread basket and sometimes Amazon shipments come the next day. Usually within 3 days but some suppliers process orders 24/7…. Surely they can send it over on a slow boat…they advertise international shipping…not sure if free shipping is applicable…
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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter, wix wins round 2!
« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2023, 12:00:57 AM »
Oil filter thread! ;D ;D
I had a bunch of Hi-Flo filter before.  A shame I did not find one now. Plus other strange Japan made filters I bought from Yamiya a few years ago.

I like to have such stuff in stock as motor oil, throttle, clutch, speedo and tacho cables. And some boxes of plugs.

I bought 4-5 US gallons of Spectro Heavy Duty 20W-50 2 years ago .

I noticed that I had  2-3 gallons left so visited same seller early this year to buy more before price rallye as everything else nowadays.

Holy sh!t, price +50%!!! >$60US/gallon + shipping :(
So happy I ordered when price was good.

I ordered 10 pack K&N filters from Germany for a good price. Lower shipping each when ordering more.

Engine builds consume some oil and filters when just restored.

I have some good priced 4L Eurol Motor oil too, mineral as synthetic  ;)
I use my stock of Red Line and Spectro as ZDDP additive to 2L Eurol at each change.
My K6 made over 10.000 km last year so 3 changes.

Not too rich carbs now so 5000km intervals can work as long as oil feels good.

Anyway, the too long filter must be a filter to other engines.
A mystery to be solved.

Where are you buying your oil..
Spectro hd 20w-50 is on Amazon for $10.00 a quart.

Surely you can buy from Amazon..?

I’m in the bread basket and sometimes Amazon shipments come the next day. Usually within 3 days but some suppliers process orders 24/7…. Surely they can send it over on a slow boat…they advertise international shipping…not sure if free shipping is applicable…
Add 25% VAT + 4% customs on that ;)
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter, wix wins round 2!
« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2023, 02:53:30 PM »
Oil filter thread! ;D ;D
I had a bunch of Hi-Flo filter before.  A shame I did not find one now. Plus other strange Japan made filters I bought from Yamiya a few years ago.

I like to have such stuff in stock as motor oil, throttle, clutch, speedo and tacho cables. And some boxes of plugs.

I bought 4-5 US gallons of Spectro Heavy Duty 20W-50 2 years ago .

I noticed that I had  2-3 gallons left so visited same seller early this year to buy more before price rallye as everything else nowadays.

Holy sh!t, price +50%!!! >$60US/gallon + shipping :(
So happy I ordered when price was good.

I ordered 10 pack K&N filters from Germany for a good price. Lower shipping each when ordering more.

Engine builds consume some oil and filters when just restored.

I have some good priced 4L Eurol Motor oil too, mineral as synthetic  ;)
I use my stock of Red Line and Spectro as ZDDP additive to 2L Eurol at each change.
My K6 made over 10.000 km last year so 3 changes.

Not too rich carbs now so 5000km intervals can work as long as oil feels good.

Anyway, the too long filter must be a filter to other engines.
A mystery to be solved.

Where are you buying your oil..
Spectro hd 20w-50 is on Amazon for $10.00 a quart.

Surely you can buy from Amazon..?

I’m in the bread basket and sometimes Amazon shipments come the next day. Usually within 3 days but some suppliers process orders 24/7…. Surely they can send it over on a slow boat…they advertise international shipping…not sure if free shipping is applicable…
Add 25% VAT + 4% customs on that ;)

OMG… I suppose VAT = value added tax…?

Southern border’s wide open… they probably won’t let you in if you’re going to be productive…😩
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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter, wix wins round 2!
« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2023, 08:32:36 PM »



OMG… I suppose VAT = value added tax…?

Southern border’s wide open… they probably won’t let you in if you’re going to be productive…
Yes, tax, more for non productive worldwide than ourselves ;)

Spectro HD mineral 20W-50 is a good oil and looked ok even after 5600km in my K2. I planned to change 1000km earlier but Franks rides 2023 let that happen quick.

Finding neutral when warm still worked OK.
Other lower priced oils not much lower when delivered.
Spectro is a good oil that the market must have noticed and price adjusted up.

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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter, wix wins round 2!
« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2023, 09:36:23 PM »
 The offending 24940 filter does in fact fit on a cb750, I removed it today and it's not crushed in the least. It still does not fit on a gl1000. That said, I now find 24940 and 24937 Wix and K&N 401 all listed for both bikes, most Hondas, a lot of Kawasaki and a Triumph or two.
 I can draw no reasonable conclusion except there are production tolerances (the spring) that allow multiple filters to fit a lot of bikes but not all of those fit my gl1000 even though they are listed to fit.
 
 Sorry for my oil filter thread.  Sincerely, Don.
 
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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter, wix wins round 2!
« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2023, 04:14:39 AM »
Should never need to apologize for posting/sharing good helpful info, even if it is an oil thread, those are not as charged as they once were… too bad the rest of the world isn’t as civilized as this forum is most of the time…
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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter, wix wins round 2!
« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2023, 05:12:39 AM »
I sure hope I do not have to apologise for my contribution.
Here it is: https://www.cmsnl.com/products/element-oil-filte_15410426010/
Fits all models and saves any CB Four owner discussions and fingers gone sour by typing.
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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter, wix wins round 2!
« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2023, 09:15:45 AM »
Oil filter thread a good one, Don!
Most threads here will end up in very good information regardless how they started.
This one started very well. ;)

Different sizes of the filters good to be aware of.

I was sure that Emgo filter was crap that could fall apart, but good experience showed up.

I used a filter 9 days ago on my K2.  Filter mayb from Yamiya years ago.
Finally a filter with o-ring not too thin. This was even slightly thicker, 4.6mm.

The oil bolt o-ring got Viton 15x2.5mm with tighter fit, outwr as inner.
Same as used on CB750 oil lines to engine.
Less oil weap at front after that on my K6
 I had plans to pull engine on my K6 to reseal cases.
Filter o-rings the worst reason.

I have a bunch of 79x4.5mm o-rings since filters usually have no or too thin.

« Last Edit: October 11, 2023, 09:31:18 AM by PeWe »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter, wix wins round 2!
« Reply #43 on: October 20, 2023, 04:53:58 AM »
ill post measurements tomorrow,ryco is a well known name here in filters,these come with two big o rings,thick n thin,plus looks like a bolt o ring lets hope?,these are 15 bucks here.
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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter, wix wins round 2!
« Reply #44 on: October 20, 2023, 05:01:40 AM »
ill post measurements tomorrow,ryco is a well known name here in filters,these come with two big o rings,thick n thin,plus looks like a bolt o ring lets hope?,these are 15 bucks here.
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter, wix wins round 2!
« Reply #45 on: October 20, 2023, 05:05:41 AM »
your sharp pewe,i was just wetting my whistle!

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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter, wix wins round 2!
« Reply #46 on: October 20, 2023, 05:08:56 AM »
;D ;D
I'm having a Gin tonic while working from home so I'm in the mood!
Waiting for the Eurojackpot millions....
;D ;D
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter, wix wins round 2!
« Reply #47 on: October 20, 2023, 09:41:17 AM »
;D ;D
I'm having a Gin tonic while working from home so I'm in the mood!
Waiting for the Eurojackpot millions....
;D ;D

And is the Eurojackpot subjugated to the VAT too? Or do you have another like here that relieves you of half when you win.? Perhaps closer to two thirds after all the taxing agencies gets their cuts…?
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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter, wix wins round 2!
« Reply #48 on: October 20, 2023, 11:19:04 AM »


;D ;D
I'm having a Gin tonic while working from home so I'm in the mood!
Waiting for the Eurojackpot millions....
;D ;D

And is the Eurojackpot subjugated to the VAT too? Or do you have another like here that relieves you of half when you win.? Perhaps closer to two thirds after all the taxing agencies gets their cuts…?

Tax free!  ;D
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Wix 24940 oil filter, wix wins round 2!
« Reply #49 on: October 20, 2023, 06:16:13 PM »
ive used these meiwa filters for ages,i bought about 8 of them once,last one left now,the meiwa is 55mm long and the ryco is similar at 54mm,the meiwa inside has large perforated holes and the ryco has punched sort of flutes?(i removed the ryco rubber for a better shot),the thick o ring is 4.4mm,the thin one is 3mm.
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