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Offline Rosinante

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Master Link Cam Chain
« on: June 23, 2023, 06:13:37 AM »
A friend wonders if a non-continuous (master link) cam chain is a stoopid idea.  He is repairing a 1981 CB900 and hopes to avoid splitting the case (apparently a somewhat challenging procedure).

I see photos of cam chain master links using clips instead of rivets.  Can anyone confirm their reliability?  The reason I ask is that some folks question master link clips for final drive chains.  Final drive chains turn MUCH MUCH MUCH slower than cam chains do.

Rivet-type master links also exist for cam chains.  I suspect these actually do work, as long as they are properly riveted (or peened or swedged or whatever term is correct).

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Offline bryanj

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Re: Master Link Cam Chain
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2023, 12:35:47 PM »
450 and 500 twin were designed to use rivet links and chain is same size as 350, 400, 500, 550 and 750 standard chains.
I thought the later 900 used hyvo chains and never seen a link for those
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Offline Flyin900

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Re: Master Link Cam Chain
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2023, 12:44:00 PM »
While a Hyvo cam chain link does exist and some brave souls have used it..... not a best practice by a long shot. That engine is big, heavy and not easy to work with, yet the bottom case can be removed to access the transmission, crank shaft and shift fork areas.
Not a commonly rebuilt motor these days it seems, as they are dying off slowly in demand and collectability.  :'(
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Offline robvangulik

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Re: Master Link Cam Chain
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2023, 01:14:57 PM »
I have replaced the cam chain on my CBR1000F's several times over the last 30 years, Hyvo chains can easily be broken and stitched again by pressing 1 pin out and later in again. My oldest CBR has now well over 350.000 km on the clock.

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Re: Master Link Cam Chain
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2023, 10:10:13 AM »
I have replaced the cam chain on my CBR1000F's several times over the last 30 years, Hyvo chains can easily be broken and stitched again by pressing 1 pin out and later in again. My oldest CBR has now well over 350.000 km on the clock.

That's impressive..... plus someone who has experience with actually doing it.

Still not easily done though, unless you possess the skills at a good mechanical level and the correct tools for the job.

I am impressed with your work on actually breaking the chain and reconnecting it, so a nice response!
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1966 CL77 - 305cc - Gentleman's Scrambler
1967 CL175K0 - Scrambler #802 engine
1972 CB350F - Candy Bacchus Olive - Super Sport
1973 CB350F - Flake Matador Red - Super Sport
1975 CB400F - Parakeet Yellow - Super Sport
1976 CB400F - Varnish Blue - Super Sport
1976 GL1000 - Goldwing Standard
1978 CB550K - Super Sport
1981 GL1100 - Goldwing Standard
1982 CM450A - Hondamatic
1982 CB900C - Custom
1983 CX650E - Eurosport
1983 CB1000C - Custom X 2 Bikes now - both restored
1983 CB1100F - Super Sport - Pristine example
1984 GL1200 - Goldwing Standard

Offline Rosinante

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Re: Master Link Cam Chain
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2023, 01:28:11 PM »
Well-said.  There must be some toolage and expertise at work in stitching these chains.
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