Topic: ST-2 Systems Brake Light Control

[BenelliSEI]

Just like my Kawasaki KLR650 (Sold), my “new to me” Honda Varadero 1000 twin stops quickly when the throttle is closed. Add a few downshifts and it coasts to a stop even faster! Constantly reminding myself to pull the front brake lever to show a brake light to the cars behind. Today I ordered a stop switch from ST-2 Systems that is essentially an inertia switch. Looks like you wire it in to the brake light circuit and it pops the light whenever there is any deceleration……. Makes sense, will be interesting to see how well it works. All the reviews on their website were very positive. Seems like a smart safety feature. Anybody tried one?

[jgger]

The guys on the FJR forum kind of talk them down. You know that flashing brake bulbs are available, and they are plug and play. Although I have been eyeballing them.

I have gotten into the habit of pull and release the front brake several times when in traffic.

Sorry I can't give a personal experience opinion.

[grcamna2]

The guys on the FJR forum kind of talk them down. You know that flashing brake bulbs are available, and they are plug and play. Although I have been eyeballing them.

I have gotten into the habit of pull and release the front brake several times when in traffic.

Sorry I can't give a personal experience opinion.

This is what I do;front brake and the rear stoplight engages.
I'm in the habit of using the front most of the time anyway.
I'm not sure if I could enjoy linked-brakes with the rear pedal controlling everything.

[BenelliSEI]

The guys on the FJR forum kind of talk them down. You know that flashing brake bulbs are available, and they are plug and play. Although I have been eyeballing them.

I have gotten into the habit of pull and release the front brake several times when in traffic.

Sorry I can't give a personal experience opinion.

This is what I do;front brake and the rear stoplight engages.

Yes….. me too. Just looking for something new that might be useful.

[RAFster122s]

The ST2 works well, I have one I put on my VStrom to assist in city traffic when I let off the throttle to start a flash to warm drivers behind me before I hit the brakes a second later sometimes.
Once setup it works well. Since I don't see it and rarely ride with others my feedback on it has been spotty. Most presume it is a stick feature.

You can even use it on a car if it doesn't have sensors detecting bulb failures as I think it can confuse those.

[ekpent]

You would probably drive me nuts if I was riding behind you and it lit up every time you let off the throttle. I'd have a twitchy brake finger and toe. 

[BenelliSEI]

Once installed, I will provide a review! They say it’s “shipped”.

[jgger]

Once installed, I will provide a review! They say it’s “shipped”.

Please do. If you have riding buddies, give us their experience of riding with you.

[Kelly E]

Some people might think that your brake light is messed up and just ignore it since it's randomly flashing. Or they'll think you're riding with your foot on the brake pedal. It's like the boy that cried wolf to many times.

[BenelliSEI]

Some people might think that your brake light is messed up and just ignore it since it's randomly flashing. Or they'll think you're riding with your foot on the brake pedal. It's like the boy that cried wolf to many times.

I’m going to set it to just come on. No flashing. This twin slows down so quickly I think it will be a big improvement over me remembering to drag the front brake…..

[70CB750]

You would probably drive me nuts if I was riding behind you and it lit up every time you let off the throttle. I'd have a twitchy brake finger and toe. 

I am with you.  I don't like it when cars show their brake lights four times a minute.

[BenelliSEI]

You would probably drive me nuts if I was riding behind you and it lit up every time you let off the throttle. I'd have a twitchy brake finger and toe. 

I am with you.  I don't like it when cars show their brake lights four times a minute.

It’s not you guys that worry me….. It’s the guy sleeping behind the wheel of his car. I’ll set it up for no flashing.

[BenelliSEI]

The first unit was definitely faulty or damaged during shipping. I traded a few emails with their tech line and they posted me a new one, no problem. Received it today. Will update when installed……

[BenelliSEI]

FYI….. received a second unit a few days ago and mounted it up. Went for a ride yesterday and my riding buddy reported the same outcome. Came on occasionally, but not when I was downshifting and coming to a stop. He reported the longest time it stayed on was when I accelerated up a long hill.

I give up. “Schnell” had the same result with his. These are junk and I’m going to try and return then! Complete waste of time.

[grcamna2]

FYI….. received a second unit a few days ago and mounted it up. Went for a ride yesterday and my riding buddy reported the same outcome. Came on occasionally, but not when I was downshifting and coming to a stop. He reported the longest time it stayed on was when I accelerated up a long hill.

I give up. “Schnell” had the same result with his. These are junk and I’m going to try and return then! Complete waste of time.

Those things are destined for the 'trash heap'.
I hope you give their Google site? the reviews they deserve.

[BenelliSEI]

FYI….. received a second unit a few days ago and mounted it up. Went for a ride yesterday and my riding buddy reported the same outcome. Came on occasionally, but not when I was downshifting and coming to a stop. He reported the longest time it stayed on was when I accelerated up a long hill.

I give up. “Schnell” had the same result with his. These are junk and I’m going to try and return then! Complete waste of time.

Those things are destined for the 'trash heap'.
I hope you give their Google site? the reviews they deserve.

Done!

[RAFster122s]

Tilting it more is the opposite logic of what I think it needs

[BenelliSEI]

I made shims and tried 3 and 6 degrees of tilt (measured with a very accurate electronic level) both up and down at the front. Made no difference. Piece of crap device. I am tempted to crack one open to see what’s inside. It sounds like a very mechanical switch when you rattle it…..

[jgger]

Your experience seems to be pretty consistent with most that I have seen. It's too bad, I had considered getting one also, I think I'll steer clear. I will continue to flash the brake light with the front brake lever, it is almost a habit for me now.

Thanks for letting us all know, and sorry it didn't work out. They do sell bulbs that flash when the brakes are first applied then go solid. But you were looking for something to activate on deceleration , weren't you?

[BenelliSEI]

Your experience seems to be pretty consistent with most that I have seen. It's too bad, I had considered getting one also, I think I'll steer clear. I will continue to flash the brake light with the front brake lever, it is almost a habit for me now.

Thanks for letting us all know, and sorry it didn't work out. They do sell bulbs that flash when the brakes are first applied then go solid. But you were looking for something to activate on deceleration , weren't you?

Exactly. Seemed like a good idea but obviously I tried the wrong device….. like you, I’ll just do it myself!

[BenelliSEI]

Just an FYI. Sent a few emails demanding a return and refund. No replies.

Added some negative comments to their multiple posts and ads on Facebook and they disappear as fast as I post. Definitely a bunch of scammers.

[jgger]

At one time I did a look up to check the compatibility for my bike, but didn't buy. Now I get 2 or 3 emails from them every week, going to have to block then I guess.

[BenelliSEI]

At one time I did a look up to check the compatibility for my bike, but didn't buy. Now I get 2 or 3 emails from them every week, going to have to block then I guess.

I have a few I’ll sell really cheap? I wonder how many they have sold and if none of them really work? Amazing.

[Stev-o]

Just an FYI. Sent a few emails demanding a return and refund. No replies.

Assuming you paid with a credit card, dispute the charge.

[BenelliSEI]

Just an FYI. Sent a few emails demanding a return and refund. No replies.

Assuming you paid with a credit card, dispute the charge.

Steve….. good idea! I will. Thanks!

[jgger]

As I posted earlier I keep getting emails from them wanting me to buy. If yours does not work they should stand behind it. Here is the latest email I received, they sure sound good, but.........

[BenelliSEI]

As I posted earlier I keep getting emails from them wanting me to buy. If yours does not work they should stand behind it. Here is the latest email I received, they sure sound good, but.........

I know of three people that ordered these. None of them actually work. They are not responding to my emails requesting a refund. Don’t be tempted.

[jgger]

I am not tempted at all. I was on the fence at one point but after your experience there is no way for me to go H
ahead with it.

[Kelly E]

It's a pretty low down thing to scam people on safety stuff. Crimes like this should have higher fines and  longer sentences.