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Offline sfhurst

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350F Wiring
« on: August 11, 2023, 12:46:37 PM »
I am rebuilding a '73 350F.  I had everything back together and everything worked.  Turn signals, headlight, starter, and horn worked.  Taillight came on when the key was in the "Park" position.  My problem showed up after I started the bike for the first time.  It started a ran fine, but it wouldn't idle.  I was so excited that it actually started and ran I forgot to turn the key to the "Off" position after it stopped running.  A few days later I noticed the trickle charger gave an indication it could not make a connection to the battery.  I had it tested and found the battery was COMPLETELY dead and would not take a charge.

So, my problem is that now NOTHING works, except the horn and the taillight in the "Park" position.  No turn signals, no starter, no lights on braking.  Nothing.  What could leaving the key in the "on" position for three days have done?  I took the headlight out and check the rat's nest but no disconnects.  With the key on the "On" position there is current at the starter solenoid, and all of the grounds are solid.

Any suggestions?

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Re: 350F Wiring
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2023, 02:54:15 PM »
You did put in a new battery? Check the fuse(s)?

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Re: 350F Wiring
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2023, 10:04:18 PM »
Yes, new battery and I checked the fuse.  I think the problem is in the rat's nest behind the headlight.  Everything looks connected, but when checking the connections with a multimeter I connected the red/yellow with a ground and I got the starter motor to turn over.  It was like the multimeter had become part of some missing circuit.  My plan tomorrow is to disconnect everything behind the headlight and start over.  Something is loose in there.

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Re: 350F Wiring
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2023, 11:31:33 PM »
Dont just check but replace the fuse as they can look good but loose contact inside the cap.
When you checked the yellow/red you grounded it which is what the switch does so of course the starter turned.
Check for 12v pos at red wire of ign switch then black with switch in position 1 as you may have corroded contacts/bad solder connections
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Re: 350F Wiring
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2023, 08:58:53 PM »
as mentioned above, could be oxidized fuse connectors.  Happened to me on a 400f,  larry

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Re: 350F Wiring
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2023, 03:18:10 AM »
Yes, new battery and I checked the fuse.  I think the problem is in the rat's nest behind the headlight.  Everything looks connected, but when checking the connections with a multimeter I connected the red/yellow with a ground and I got the starter motor to turn over.  It was like the multimeter had become part of some missing circuit.  My plan tomorrow is to disconnect everything behind the headlight and start over.  Something is loose in there.
Any further updates? Did you test both sides of the fuses with a test light probe or a multi meter?
Stu
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My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: 350F Wiring
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2023, 12:19:00 PM »
Got out the diagram and rechecked every connection.  The multiplug that sits above the battery seems to have been the culprit.  All I did was disconnect, then reconnect all of the wires and suddenly everything on the bike worked perfectly and continues to do so.  Thanks to all for everyone's advice.

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Re: 350F Wiring
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2023, 03:39:03 PM »
Use some electrical contact cleaner in the connectors, push the connectors together and aprt a few times to clean them up. Then a little dialect grease in them.
Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A