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Re: one sooty spark plug
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2023, 09:14:24 AM »
Adjusting floats is definately NOT maintenance, dont think i ever touched one in the years in the trade unless the owner said he had "reset" them
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Re: one sooty spark plug
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2023, 12:52:52 PM »
Bryanj's remark is exactly what the Dutch professional Honda mecs said.
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Re: one sooty spark plug
« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2023, 01:17:38 PM »
Fun stuff and there's not a bunch of government regulations telling us we can't do it.
What?! In Europe we have no laws on motorcycle emissions, nor on recycling blow-by gas which caused problems on the models which didn't originally have it. We can switch our lights on and off when we feel like it. And... you wanna compare your low quality gasoline to ours? Are you serious? Here you can walk the streets freely without being fined for jaywalking. Here you don't have to pledge alegiance to a cloth. Here teachers are free to discuss whatever subject, books (including Anne Frank's diary) in class. Man, I can go on and on.
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Re: one sooty spark plug
« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2023, 01:20:12 PM »
I say Delta,steady old boy.

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Re: one sooty spark plug
« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2023, 01:44:01 PM »
Looks like a bunch of unscheduled float maintenance is going on, glad the setup process and specs are in the manual lol!

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Re: one sooty spark plug
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2023, 04:10:57 PM »
Fun stuff and there's not a bunch of government regulations telling us we can't do it.
What?! In Europe we have no laws on motorcycle emissions, nor on recycling blow-by gas which caused problems on the models which didn't originally have it. We can switch our lights on and off when we feel like it. And... you wanna compare your low quality gasoline to ours? Are you serious? Here you can walk the streets freely without being fined for jaywalking. Here you don't have to pledge alegiance to a cloth. Here teachers are free to discuss whatever subject, books (including Anne Frank's diary) in class. Man, I can go on and on.

Don't know where you get your information but The Diary of Anne Frank was required reading in school.
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Re: one sooty spark plug
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2023, 05:09:17 PM »
Jeez…..what was the question?

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Re: one sooty spark plug
« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2023, 08:19:56 PM »
Jeez…..what was the question?

There was no question. I simply stated that I tweaked the float tang with a screwdriver while the carb (#1)was still attached in order to rectify a sooty spark plug.
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Re: one sooty spark plug
« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2023, 10:43:59 PM »
Jeez…..what was the question?

There was no question. I simply stated that I tweaked the float tang with a screwdriver while the carb (#1)was still attached in order to rectify a sooty spark plug.
Then your floattang must have been mishandled before. This I have repeated for years now.
In the genuine Shop Manual, Honda was to describe every job possible ofcourse. How was Honda to foresee some jobs would never need to be done?
Only professional mechanics like Bryanj and his collegues in Holland built up experience in their daily practice over the years. And it is this knowledge that I hold for more valuable than whatever manual.
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Re: one sooty spark plug
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2023, 01:35:23 AM »
id rather hold a beer?

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Re: one sooty spark plug
« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2023, 02:01:57 AM »
Karen just being a typical Karen...
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Re: one sooty spark plug
« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2023, 01:41:29 PM »
Started out as a simple question.  Ended up looking like a college thesis. 

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Re: one sooty spark plug
« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2023, 05:15:44 PM »
...more like Kindergarteners on the play ground
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Re: one sooty spark plug
« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2023, 07:05:41 PM »
My gut feeling is the swivel pin is the real cause. If you can't get it out, there's a good chance up and down movement of the float is hindered.
So far I have never met a float that needed adjustement. It's this crazy thing here in this forum only. Leave it alone!
The pins get stuck in the posts in the carb body, and a stuck one does not hinder the movement of the float. Perhaps you have never experienced this?
The OP's float obliviously needed adjustment, and responded favorably. Perhaps in your world of unicorns and lollypops these types of problems never show up, but in the real world they do all the time. :P
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Re: one sooty spark plug
« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2023, 07:07:30 PM »
Fun stuff and there's not a bunch of government regulations telling us we can't do it.
What?! In Europe we have no laws on motorcycle emissions, nor on recycling blow-by gas which caused problems on the models which didn't originally have it. We can switch our lights on and off when we feel like it. And... you wanna compare your low quality gasoline to ours? Are you serious? Here you can walk the streets freely without being fined for jaywalking. Here you don't have to pledge alegiance to a cloth. Here teachers are free to discuss whatever subject, books (including Anne Frank's diary) in class. Man, I can go on and on.
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Re: one sooty spark plug
« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2023, 08:14:56 PM »
Is the modern fuel different than the old fuel from the 80's when floats were OK?

If floats just float different now.

It is possible to make a mistake when bowl is taken off and fitted again, hitting, bending the float.
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Re: one sooty spark plug
« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2023, 09:08:14 PM »
Is the modern fuel different than the old fuel from the 80's when floats were OK?

If floats just float different now.

Then why only one cylinder, and not all four?
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Re: one sooty spark plug
« Reply #42 on: September 25, 2023, 03:10:54 AM »
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Put a smile on my morning coffee! We all know how problems get solved on the playground lol.

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Re: one sooty spark plug
« Reply #43 on: September 25, 2023, 03:59:44 AM »
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The pins get stuck in the posts in the carb body, and a stuck one does not hinder the movement of the float. Perhaps you have never experienced this?
In principle right, but when a pin is stuck - mine never were - it can indicate to an aggressive abuse with pliers. When this happened, the amateur probably didn't know how to handle these delicate parts and then anything is possible. In all my replies over the years, I've stressed it is absolutely essential the float can move as lightly as possible and one should inspect the swivel pin and polish it. Gruzzel's video demonstrates how little it takes to impede the floats movements. Even in a perfect condition - the video shows - the movement is not continuous but happens in increments. That tells you.
The OP's float obliviously needed adjustment, and responded favorably. [...]
Yes, and it is a pound to a penny, someone has been at it before; most probably a reader of this forum. ;D But... maybe you, Sir, can explain why only this float needed 'maintenance' and not the other three.
Maybe you, Sir, can explain why in the other fora this tampering the floattangs, never surfaces as a subject. Here's a hint. In Europe not that many have the Clymer manual.
Maybe you, Sir can explain what I - in over 43 years and 140.000kms must have done wrong to arrive at not having to do this 'maintenance' ever. ;D
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