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Offline Kaze

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Story: Strict-Ass Japanese Motorcycle Laws and Testing
« on: October 02, 2023, 12:53:57 PM »
From 2001 to 2014 I lived in Osaka, Japan. Japan was a safe and good place to live and build a family. More often than not, the people were kind and friendly -- which is more than I can say for my hometown of Seattle. So in no way is the following meant to disparage or disrespect the fine folk of Nippon.

I'd been riding an 83' K100 around Japan, using an international driver's permit which I got from AAA. It's good for 1 year, and I reapplied for one every year. My Japanese rider friends all teased me about it, saying I had lived in Japan long enough that I should get a "real" license. So I did my best.

First, a little background. Japan doesn't want people to ride big CC bikes. I'm not sure about 2023, but when I was there, motorbikes couldn't park in any parking garages, even if you pay full price. The attendant would just wave you off and shout "Tansha akan!" (Tansha is motorcycle, akan is Osaka dialect for "no good"). But you cannot park on the sidewalk with the bicycles and scooters either, or you get a big F'ing ticket like I did. So...that sucks. Park on the street. All these cool bikes from the 70's that we love? They weren't made for Japan, but for export. So every time you see a Z1 or a CB750K or a W3 in Japan? They are reverse-imports. That's why I couldn't find any clunker Japanese bikes to fix up, because there aren't any.

At some point, Harley Davidson and the US Gov. pressured Japan over their big-bike animus, and basically forced them to make it easier to sell big bikes (especially Harleys) there. "Easy ER" not easy. Again, it wasn't an anti-foreign product thing, they didn't want ANY big bikes. (It's also hard to get a car driver's license too).

Japan introduced a 3 tier motorcycle license. Small, medium and large cc bikes EACH have separate licenses! If a Japanese citizen has a class B license to ride 250-400cc bikes, they cannot ride a 750. In order to get that "O-gata" license, be prepared to pay and wait and pay again.

Driver's tests are MEGA strict in Japan. First of all, all testers are actual cops... and nowhere near as "friendly" as DOL/DMV folks. They are by the book, and don't chit-chat. And they certainly don't joke with cheeky white boys. They might have a stick up their butts, but it's regulation size, with an official stamp on it. One of the deterrents they use to keep everybody away is cost.

$10 for their rules and regulations book.
$33 to take the written test (which is in Japanese, but short, because I already had a US license)
$7 for a photo (official size)
$6 for an eye exam (yes, you have to pay)
$10 to use their bike to test (CB750 Nighthawk).
$16.50 PASSING FEE if you pass.

As a foreigner, I had to pay $30 for an official translation of my Washington State license. Nope, you can't have your Japanese wife do it, it has an official seal and all that. The only "easy" part was that as a rider with a foreign motorcycle license, I only had to take a short written exam, in Japanese, but that was fine. After paying all that money for paperwork, the testing site is way out in the middle of nowhere, and it's by appointment only.

IF YOU FAIL (and you almost certainly will) you have to pay all those fees again. They did say I wouldn't have to retake the written, but eye-exam? Every time. It's not like they are corrupt, they do NOT you riding a big-ass bike.

The testing site is immaculate, very fancy and large. The motorcycle only test site has it's own fenced in area, complete with fake intersections, hills, steel bars on the road for bumps, a lot of cones, working traffic lights, a train track with working lights, a curved section in the road, and the dreaded “Steel Bridge” which is a 30 foot long by 12 inch metal plate that you have to idle across. You cannot just drive across, and if your foot touches the ground, you fail.

In Japan you're literally at the DMV half of the day doing all your documentation and waiting. Lots of waiting. One man there waiting with me had failed 5 times. He was very focused.

So I rocked the course, put BOTH feet down and counted to 2 at every stop (as the law requires), used my hand-signals, and looked both ways at the train tracks, standing slightly over the bumpy section, and then... my foot touched halfway down the steel bridge.

$100 bucks to fail. (Gotta also pay for the trains to get there and back)

I tried it their way, but that was just way, way too strict for me. I continued to ride my infernal, foreign death machine using just the International Driver's Permit.
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Re: Story: Strict-Ass Japanese Motorcycle Laws and Testing
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2023, 01:01:25 PM »
Oh, and I should add that despite the kindly nature of most Japanese people? They speed like crazy on the freeway, and drunk-driving is still an issue like anywhere else. They just...run your ass over more skillfully.
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2023, 03:22:39 PM »
Wow, that is a bit much. I'd get in trouble for not putting my feet down at the stop sign. Sometimes I don't put my feet down at all, just hold the front brake and balance it like we did on our bicycles when we were kids. ::)

 In 2017 I got my endorsement back after it lapsed while I was in cancer treatments. I had to take the written test. Once passed I had make an appointment for the skills test. It was in a large parking lot with the tests painted on the pavement and marked by those little kids soccer size cones. The guy giving the test showed up riding an 83' V45 Interceptor. 8)

All of the other people were Harley owners renting Yamaha BW 200 enduros for the test, I was riding my 84' V4 Sabre 700 with the Hondaline fairing and bags. I was last on the list so I got to watch everyone go first. There was plenty of foot dabbing going on. It surprised me because they were riding really easy bikes to ride. I'm very familiar with the Sabre so I didn't have any trouble with the test. Afterwards the instructor was checking out my bike and told me that every one of those people passed with no points to spare.

In Washington State you start at 100 points and get deductions for dabbing and other stuff. Too many deductions and you fail. I think you can retest at least once before you have to pay again.
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Re: Story: Strict-Ass Japanese Motorcycle Laws and Testing
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2023, 03:31:16 PM »
Also in Washington (at least when I got my endoresement there 35+ years ago), similar to Japan, there are different endorsements for different displacements: up to 250, 250-500, and 500cc and up. I took mine on a CB550, so I got the unlimited.

I posted about the course I had to take here in Mexico City, a new requirement for a new kind of license. They're run by private companies and there is no stopping them failing you and making you pay to take it over again (although it's about $30US the first time, $15 for a retake).

But once you have your license (or, I guess, even if you don't), the streets are a free-for-all.

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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2023, 03:43:56 PM »
Also in Washington (at least when I got my endoresement there 35+ years ago), similar to Japan, there are different endorsements for different displacements: up to 250, 250-500, and 500cc and up. I took mine on a CB550, so I got the unlimited.

I posted about the course I had to take here in Mexico City, a new requirement for a new kind of license. They're run by private companies and there is no stopping them failing you and making you pay to take it over again (although it's about $30US the first time, $15 for a retake).

But once you have your license (or, I guess, even if you don't), the streets are a free-for-all.


They changed it back to one license fits all. That's why the Harley people got to use the BW 200's and then go ride their Harley. It's also run by contractors now, both the written and skills test.
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1977 Kawasaki KZ 1000 LTD                                   1985 GMC S15
1978 Kawasaki KL 250
1980 Suzuki GS 1100E
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1983 Honda CB 1100F
1984 Honda VF 700S Sabre
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Re: Story: Strict-Ass Japanese Motorcycle Laws and Testing
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2023, 08:46:02 PM »
HA!!! Kelly, I have teenagers so I saw "Dabbing" and was like, "They were doing WOT?!?!"

carnivorous chicken is an awesome handle. Here in Washington (or at least this town) the DOL has changed so that they don't do ANY testing. My eldest kids did their written and the driver's test at a private school down the road from the Dept. of Licensing, and both failed the driving test twice. My son was told that he went over the center line, on a road that has no lines. My eldest daughter is actually a good driver, who took her course with THAT company and they failed her twice also. I definitely think a bit of scamming is going on.

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Re: Story: Strict-Ass Japanese Motorcycle Laws and Testing
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2023, 01:16:59 PM »
Isn't japan one of those places with infamously slow speed limits?
Seems like the kind of place where a single cylinder bike would be adequate.


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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2023, 01:51:20 PM »
Hello Bombermann. Didn't you just ride around the planet or something?

So yeah... totally crazy. 80kph. I always rode 100kmh because it made me feel like I was a racer. lol It's like when you lift weights in kg, you feel like Superman. But yeah, 50mph on a freeway is ridiculous. I'd be going 60 or 70mph and cars (usually expensive ones) would fly by me so fast I'd feel the wind. And to the right...because the right is the fast-lane. It's just one insane moment after the other on a Japanese freeway.

At least they are clean? No rubbish, no potholes, just clean blacktop.

Oh yes, I almost forgot. The most common bike on the road when I was there was the Yamaha SR400. And yes, it is a single-cylinder bike. You can have any body kit you want with that bike. I'd venture to say that it might be more customizable than a Harley. Crotchrocket, chopper, naked, bobber...anything they want. I imagine that the motorcycle customizing market does quite well there. Huge middle-class, lots of motorcycle lovers.
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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2023, 02:02:15 PM »
I wanted to add something I never wrote about before...

There were TONS of women on motorcycles in Japan. Riders in America are predominantly male, but in Japan, no way. Women on Harleys, scooters, Monkeys/Gorillas, SR's, everything. As male-oriented as Japan is, the biker/rider world has FAR more women on bikes than we do in America. If you count scooters (which I usually don't) then there's no contest. Most scooter riders I saw were female. That includes the grocery-getters and the big-ass livingroom sofa sized scooters. (Again, full custom)

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Re: Story: Strict-Ass Japanese Motorcycle Laws and Testing
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2023, 02:20:54 PM »
I was in Makahari, decent train ride outside Tokyo in a business park, one morning waiting for the crosswalk outside train station along with the school kids and adults like myself heading into work. Young school boy on a scooter and he revs it to the moon after his light changed and let’s out a war whoop as he rides a wheelie through the intersection in front of the crowd and the large group of young girls in their school uniforms.  The crowd laughed and giggled at him as he did this…

Funny thing was under the tracks and the light this kid was crossing from sat a small police substation.

Don’t know if it was transit police or regular city police station. They didn’t witness the behavior and nothing came of it…

Added variety to an otherwise boring morning on way to work…

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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2023, 03:10:35 PM »
Good write-up, really interesting. I'm surprised by how cheap it is compared to UK, the bike test process here involves compulsory training too and the whole cost will come to £1000 or more. It's also ridiculously complex and clearly intended to put people off.

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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2023, 06:51:55 PM »
Hello Bombermann. Didn't you just ride around the planet or something?

Haha!!  ... no 😓

I wish that were the case. Would need a lot of prep work before i could circumnavigate the earth.
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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2023, 07:03:25 PM »
They changed it back to one license fits all. That's why the Harley people got to use the BW 200's and then go ride their Harley. It's also run by contractors now, both the written and skills test.

Gotcha. Been years.

Mexico City has low speed limits, 80km/h on Periferico (the ring road), but outside of the city up to 110 or 120. Outside of the city on some roads that are 90 I cruise at 100-110, and cars shoot past me. Rarely do I see cops pulling people over for speeding, and I've only seen a cop with a radar gun once (on that same road and luckily I was going the limit). There are speed cameras on Periferico on the second (toll) level, so I keep it 80 there.

I've got a 350F here, and mostly just zip around so it's kind of perfect. I sold a 160 before I came here, but that would have been kind of fun too (although you need 250cc or higher for Periferico). I'm bringing another 350F down but also a 550F for those out-of-town missions. I've had 750s and other 550s, but I actually like winding out smaller displacement bikes and running through the gears. I figure with a 750 here I wouldn't get out of third in the city.

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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2023, 01:31:26 PM »
Tim2005: Hhaaaaaarsh. Even more expensive? Japanese folks have to take the course, and it is also very costly. I got off "cheap" because I was a foreigner with a US license. ...and still complained.

Americans really have no idea how good we got it. Gasoline was also 3x the price in Japan compared to America, plus almost every highway is a toll road. Drive a bit, pay 500 yen, go a bit more, stop, pay 2000 yen. (100yen is roughly $1 US depending upon exchange rates... but "about" a buck for 100jpy)

Bombermann650: To quote our pal Daffy Duck, "I like him. He's crazy."

RAFster122s: I once rode a wheelie through an intersection in Kobe on accident? My new to me K100 had WAY more power than my CB750K4. It was fun, but I'd never been so happy not to crash.

CC: A 550four or even 400four would be fun if I were lighter. I had a CB125S long ago, but I was 40lbs. lighter...maybe 50. I was skinny then.