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Offline sfhurst

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350F Carb Tuning
« on: October 11, 2023, 12:25:43 AM »
I installed a rebuild kit on each carb.  I manually adjusted the throttle plates before mounting.  I vacuum balanced the carbs.  There is no binding of the throttle cable.  The engine starts easily.  Nevertheless, I have the following problems.

Even after being warmed up the RPM fluctuates at idle. 

The engine responds immediately to input from the throttle but will not return to idle when the throttle is released.  The control linkage immediately returns to the idle position when the throttle is release, but the RPM does not drop, or drops very slowly.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: 350F Carb Tuning
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2023, 01:39:12 AM »
How/in what way, did you clean the carbs?
Did you clean the original brass or put in aftermarket brass parts?
Did you test for vacuum leaks around the intake to the head? How did you test? This is critical and the mist likely cause of your surging.
Are you running the stock air filter or pods?
« Last Edit: October 11, 2023, 02:50:57 AM by newday777 »
Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

Offline newday777

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Re: 350F Carb Tuning
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2023, 02:02:28 AM »
BTW, you should have continued with this on your 350F Surging thread rather than starting this new thread.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,193493.msg2258930.html#msg2258930
I just looked through some of your posts(just click on your screen name so you can find your posts)and your replies are short and little information given by you as to how you went about checking for vacuum leaks. Asking for help also includes you replying back with full information as to what and how you have done and the results you got. We are here to try to help, but without you replying back until good results happen, forums won't work for anyone. We don't know what your capabilities are or how you do the work you've done without your input. These carbs are intricate and need to be rebuilt properly.

Did you remove the the intake bungs from the head and put in new O-rings(#9 in the fiche)? If not you probably have leakage there.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2023, 02:54:22 AM by newday777 »
Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: 350F Carb Tuning
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2023, 10:53:19 AM »
Thanks for the replies.  I replaced the internal brass pieces with new after-market pieces from the rebuild kit.  Running stock air filter and original airbox.  I blew out all of the internal passages with pressurized carb cleaner.  I did remove the intake manifolds from the head and replace the O rings.  I did not conduct a vacuum test (don't know how to do that) because I thought the new O rings would have sealed that connection.

I believe I have all of the mechanical skills and tools required, but this is my first multi-carb motorcycle restoration.  I obviously still have a lot to learn.

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Re: 350F Carb Tuning
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2023, 10:59:08 AM »
"I replaced the internal brass pieces with new after-market pieces from the rebuild kit."
This is usually a mistake. They are not equal to Keihin parts.

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Re: 350F Carb Tuning
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2023, 01:57:53 PM »
I get aftermarket does not equal OEM.  I pulled the airbox and carbs (I'm getting pretty good at that), replaced the manifold O rings and reinstalled everything.  Success, or at least MUCH better idle and throttle response.  Thanks for everyone's help.  I now have a timing question, which is continuation of a previous post.