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Offline Mossy

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Finally put the carbs back on
« on: October 18, 2023, 11:21:58 AM »
I finally finished the rebuild and bench sync of the carbs on my CB350F.

After doing a vacuum sync I shut it down to let it cool off a bit.

I fired it back up and it started immediately but it wants to rev at about 4000 rpm. The idle screw isn't touching so it's not that.

What I did notice is when I push down on those brass caps on top of the carbs it idles down to 1800 but when I release them the rpm goes back up.

Is there an adjustment I'm missing or what do I do to correct this situation?

Thank you

Offline denward17

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Re: Finally put the carbs back on
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2023, 01:00:56 PM »
I think you adjusted the slides too high in the initial setup.  Did you bench sync them first?

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Re: Finally put the carbs back on
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2023, 01:30:28 PM »
Yes, I did bench sync them.

Offline denward17

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Re: Finally put the carbs back on
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2023, 01:35:11 PM »
Yes, I did bench sync them.

What did you use as a guide and on which side?

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Re: Finally put the carbs back on
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2023, 01:37:59 PM »
I used gage pins and adjusted all of the slides the same. I have the old style carbs so there is no reference carb.

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Re: Finally put the carbs back on
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2023, 03:06:29 PM »
Agreed with denward. You need to bring all those slides down a bit. Then sync again.
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Re: Finally put the carbs back on
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2023, 03:09:47 PM »
Post a pic of the sync adjusters...
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Re: Finally put the carbs back on
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2023, 03:30:33 PM »
Thanks Johnie. Mark, I'll post a pic in a sec.

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Re: Finally put the carbs back on
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2023, 03:34:36 PM »
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Re: Finally put the carbs back on
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2023, 03:52:55 PM »
Sorry to barge in... what are "Gauge pins". Thank you.

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Re: Finally put the carbs back on
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2023, 03:56:57 PM »
Gage pins are precision pins that you use to check hole diameters. I did inspection for a living for some years and used them daily. I have complete sets that range from .005 up to .500 by the .001
This is one set that I have.

https://www.grainger.com/product/39UF10?gucid=N:N:PS:Paid:MS:CSM-2295:TVRYAD:20501231
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Re: Finally put the carbs back on
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2023, 04:04:58 PM »
Could be as simple as a cable adjustment- the adjuster screw needs to touch the rack so it can do its job. Check all the adjustment points, if you can't get any slack there, I would say start over and shoot for more vacuum- adjust each slide so it closes a bit more. It should reach a point where the idle screw starts to be effective.
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Re: Finally put the carbs back on
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2023, 04:13:57 PM »
Seven, you're saying adjust the slides on the bike or start over with a bench sync?

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Re: Finally put the carbs back on
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2023, 04:30:58 PM »
 Those sync screws are too far out, prior to your initial disassembly you should take note of them. Generally they're only 2 turns or so exposed, it appears you've got 4 or more showing. Try using a smaller drill on the intake side of the slide when doing your bench sync. Back out the idle adjustment screw a turn or so as well.
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Re: Finally put the carbs back on
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2023, 04:37:02 PM »
Thanks Mark. I'll pull them back off tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes when I get done. I appreciate all of the help from all of you.

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Re: Finally put the carbs back on
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2023, 04:40:34 PM »
Yes, like Mark said, start with the slides all closed more, I usually use a very small gauge- like a paperclip, maybe 1/16 drill bit. That should get you to a point where you have to use the idle adjustment screw.
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Re: Finally put the carbs back on
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2023, 05:09:05 PM »
Will do. Thanks again to all of you.

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Re: Finally put the carbs back on
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2023, 05:56:00 PM »
I did exactly what they are telling you, and couldn't ask for a better riding bike.

Haven't vacuum sync yet, but ran like a charm.
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Re: Finally put the carbs back on
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2023, 06:28:59 PM »
Thanks Mark. I'll pull them back off tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes when I get done. I appreciate all of the help from all of you.

For the record, no need to pull them if you've already got the air filter hooked up and you've got a sync tool. If they're still sitting like they are in the photo might as well, but it is a royal PITA once you've got the airbox assembly hooked up. And yeah, the adjusters are way oo far out...