Topic: Candy Ruby Red and Gas Tanks Questions

[ZTatZAU]

While waiting for my Busso pipes, I've been dealing with a few issues like new side covers, a set of rubber fork boots, and other items...

And I got to thinking... If I'm ever going to repaint my 1971 (12/70) K1 again, now's the time to do so.  At a minimum, I'll need to paint at least one set of side covers I recently got from frankenstuff. (Thanks Joe!)

I covered up my OEM Candy Ruby Red, with a "much cooler" dark gold Dupont Duluxe enamel(?) back in the mid-late 1970s.  The gold finish is far from perfect but still looks pretty good for its age.



So, do I get a rattle can "close as I can find" color to match the gold Duluxe color, I put on back in the mid-late '70s?  OR, do it up right again with an original 1971 K1 Candy Ruby Red color scheme?

In case of the latter...

1)  Can anyone confirm (or correct) that the K0s & K1 gas tanks had painted gold and black stripes whereas K2 and later CB750 tanks used stripe decals? 

2)  Can anyone confirm, or otherwise describe the lower gas tank molding on a 1971 (12/70) K1 CB750?  Was it gold above and below a single black stripe or was it silver with a centered black stripe?  Or

3)  I've been looking at the VMR Honda, Candy Ruby Red system of Basecoat, Candy Color coat, and Clear coat.  I figure a quart of each component would be enough for the tank, side and fork covers, headlight shell, a fairing and an extra set of side covers.  Total would be about $500 for the paint.  Has anyone used this VMR CRR system?

4)  VRM seems to have a lock on best being best at matching vintage OEM Honda paints.  True?  False?
Can anyone share PPG/Shop-Line formulas for a good base, color, and clear coat products to match Honda's Candy Ruby Red?

Thoughts, comments, suggestions, and/or reviews on the VRM Candy Ruby Red system appreciated.

ZT

[69cb750]

1)  Can anyone confirm (or correct) that the K0s & K1 gas tanks had painted gold and black stripes whereas K2 and later CB750 tanks used stripe decals?

69,70,71 had painted stripes, not sure about K2

2)  Can anyone confirm, or otherwise describe the lower gas tank molding on a 1971 (12/70) K1 CB750?  Was it gold above and below a single black stripe or was it silver with a centered black stripe?  Or

K1 tank trim is silver with a black stripe

3)  I've been looking at the VMR Honda, Candy Ruby Red system of Basecoat, Candy Color coat, and Clear coat.  I figure a quart of each component would be enough for the tank, side and fork covers, headlight shell, a fairing and an extra set of side covers.  Total would be about $500 for the paint.  Has anyone used this VMR CRR system?

I have seen good results from the vmr system.

4)  VRM seems to have a lock on best being best at matching vintage OEM Honda paints.  True?  False?
Can anyone share PPG/Shop-Line formulas for a good base, color, and clear coat products to match Honda's Candy Ruby Red?

I use Xotic, have formula.

[jlh3rd]

according to this guy...and cms

[jlh3rd]

and..not saying he's right or wrong.

[MauiK3]

And of course, many folks have said the red ones were the fastest, I'm not sure about that but it's been said many times.
I'd go for VMR.

[bryanj]

Well they do paint fire engines red!

[Stev-o]

Do it right and paint all to match including the fork ears. 

Paint is very expensive these days and red pigment for some reason is the most expensive.

A quart will be more than enough, if using a painter, consult with him before purchasing. Last bike I painted I seem to recall only purchasing a pint but it was not a stock scheme and no fork ears.

[RAFster122s]

Always good to have extra paint, allows you the ability to repaint an item if necessary and have some for a touchup pen, if needed.

[ZTatZAU]

Thanks everyone!  Now there's more to think about!

...  I use Xotic, have formula. 

I'd be interested to learn more about xotic paints as well as your formula(s).
I couldn't get, what I though was, their website to load.

ZT

[69cb750]

I'd be interested to learn more about xotic paints as well as your formula(s).
I couldn't get, what I though was, their website to load.

Base = Queens gold dark
Mid = Apple red dark
Clear = SpeedoKote (other clears work too)
https://xoticcolours.com/product/queens-gold-metallic-basecoat/

[MauiK3]

Beautiful red!

[ZTatZAU]

I'd be interested to learn more about xotic paints as well as your formula(s).
I couldn't get, what I though was, their website to load.

Base = Queens gold dark
Mid = Apple red dark
Clear = SpeedoKote (other clears work too)
https://xoticcolours.com/product/queens-gold-metallic-basecoat/

Your tank looks great, 69cb750!
I've had a look at xotic's website... thanks for the link!

Is your striping painted or a decal?
If the latter, when in the 3-coat process did you apply the decal?
If the former, did you use the Queen's Gold Dark for the stripe?

Thanks!  ZT

[andy750]

I'd be interested to learn more about xotic paints as well as your formula(s).
I couldn't get, what I though was, their website to load.

Base = Queens gold dark
Mid = Apple red dark
Clear = SpeedoKote (other clears work too)
https://xoticcolours.com/product/queens-gold-metallic-basecoat/

Beautiful work! If you are looking for work I have a K2 tank and sidecovers I would like to get painted  Let me know if interested.
thanks
Andy

[69cb750]

Is your striping painted or a decal?
If the latter, when in the 3-coat process did you apply the decal?
If the former, did you use the Queen's Gold Dark for the stripe?

The stripe is paint.
Complete tank, spray two coats base, two coats mid, one coat clear, wait 24 hours.
Tape for stripe, scuff, one light coat gray primer, two coats black base, one coat clear, wait 24 hours.
3m tape for black lines, scuff, one light coat gray primer, two coats gold base, one coat clear, wait 24 hours.
Remove all tape and paper, scuff tank, two coats of clear.
I am using black ppg base, gold ppg base dbc27381.
The clear coat protects the base coat from coming off when removing tape.
This is evolution, I have tried gold seperate, black seperate, black over gold, gold over black works best.
PPG paint getting very expensive, will swith to Omni when I run out of ppg.

Beautiful work! If you are looking for work I have a K2 tank and sidecovers I would like to get painted  Let me know if interested.
thanks

I have four bikes in my basement and lack of time for my projects.

[ZTatZAU]

The stripe is paint.

Very nice!  If I proceed with an OEM paint scheme, I'd like to paint the stripe on my 1971 (12/70) K1 too.

Complete tank, spray two coats base, two coats mid, one coat clear, wait 24 hours.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I assume, up to this point... (for the Candy Ruby Red), you are using the Xotics paint products you mentioned with Speedokote clear?  Then, after 24 hrs, start on the stripe using the PPG products you mentioned?

Tape for stripe, scuff, one light coat gray primer, two coats black base, one coat clear, wait 24 hours.
3m tape for black lines, scuff, one light coat gray primer, two coats gold base, one coat clear, wait 24 hours.
Remove all tape and paper, scuff tank, two coats of clear.
I am using black ppg base, gold ppg base dbc27381.
The clear coat protects the base coat from coming off when removing tape.
This is evolution, I have tried gold seperate, black seperate, black over gold, gold over black works best.
PPG paint getting very expensive, will swith to Omni when I run out of ppg.

Thanks much for the info, 69cb750!
ZT

Beautiful work! If you are looking for work I have a K2 tank and sidecovers I would like to get painted  Let me know if interested.
thanks

I have four bikes in my basement and lack of time for my projects.

[69cb750]

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I assume, up to this point... (for the Candy Ruby Red), you are using the Xotics paint products you mentioned with Speedokote clear?  Then, after 24 hrs, start on the stripe using the PPG products you mentioned?

Yes