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Offline jwurbel

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Oil Pressure switch
« on: October 31, 2023, 07:21:54 AM »
Need a little help.  Oil light does not come on when ignition is turned on.  With a trouble light grounded, if I turn ignition on, no light on at the sensor or bulb but if I tough the outside of the bulb, the trouble light turns on.  With the trouble light hooked to the positive battery terminal it will light touching the sensor.
Testing continuity with the sensor I get the audible beep.  Checking resistance, it registers .3 ohms.

All connections from headlamp back seem correct.  Am I missing something?



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Re: Oil Pressure switch
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2023, 07:41:57 AM »
Pretty sure the switch grounds the ligh, sounds like you have a bad switch.
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Re: Oil Pressure switch
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2023, 02:09:35 PM »
with the key on,remove and ground the wire that connects to the sender,if the light now comes on the sender switch is bad.

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Re: Oil Pressure switch
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2023, 05:10:15 PM »
I did and no light so now I am not so sure it is the sender

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Re: Oil Pressure switch
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2023, 05:44:55 PM »
I know this may not have any relevance but the bike is 50 years old and I has sat for the last 25.  The bottom oil pan has never been removed.  So I have no idea how much crud is sitting down there. Would there be a potential issue with lack of oil pressure buildup due to the condition of the pump?

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Re: Oil Pressure switch
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2023, 06:31:58 PM »
no,the light should still come on

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Re: Oil Pressure switch
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2023, 06:45:38 PM »
I know this may not have any relevance but the bike is 50 years old and I has sat for the last 25.  The bottom oil pan has never been removed.  So I have no idea how much crud is sitting down there. Would there be a potential issue with lack of oil pressure buildup due to the condition of the pump?

This has a LOT of relevance...the contacts inside these oil PSI switches are anodized copper, and that anodize had a 10-year-life rating. After that it started letting go of the copper surface, and the loose anodize, which you often see on the outside of the engine cases as a white powder, makes a nice insulator! It also melts at high temperatures, which the original manufacturer (most were from TEC) counted on to keep the switch serviceable with the low current of a lamp.

So, you sort of have 2 options:
1. If you're sure you have good oil pressure, run it for a few months to see if the anodize will melt away from the contacts inside the switch and restore the operation again. My 750 has gone thru this cycle several times: I finally changed the switch for a new one in 2013, though.
2. Disconnect the switch (use the little bullet connector near the drive sprocket if this is a 750, it's easier to get to than the switch) and hook up a 9 volt battery, (+) to the switch and (-) to the engine (use a clean bolt for this ground, like a starter cover's bolt head) for about 5-8 seconds to heat up the switch's contacts and try to melt the anodize powder away. This will kill the battery, which is intentional: this action won't start a fire...Then plug the switch back into the bike and see if it works. This won't burn the switch contacts: they can withstand 5 amps and the battery can only deliver 0.3 amps max.
3. Replace the switch. The ones from PartsNmore are good one, and they also sell a nice harness with cover and wire to go with it!
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Re: Oil Pressure switch
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2023, 09:01:21 AM »
 ::) bulb + socking are OK?

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Re: Oil Pressure switch
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2023, 03:17:40 PM »
Yes

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Re: Oil Pressure switch
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2023, 06:46:27 PM »
All of the above is correct, but you still have no light?

The lamp on your dash gets power to the centre pin when you turn the ignition on. Clip your trouble light to any good ground point and touch the centre pin (not the outer casing!). Get a light? Then you have power. If not, there’s your problem.

The oil pressure switch sends a ground to the outer socket of the dash lamp. Clip your test light to the + terminal on your battery, now touch the outer case of the lamp socket. No light? Means you have a bad ground. If you get a light touching your probe to the screw terminal on the pressure switch, then the wire is broken somewhere between the switch and the lamp. If you get no test light touching the centre screw on your pressure switch, get a new switch.

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Re: Oil Pressure switch
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2023, 07:01:54 AM »
Well said.  Will update after I test.

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Re: Oil Pressure switch
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2023, 10:24:24 AM »
Well said.  Will update after I test.

That ground feed has a connector after it comes out of the starter motor housing, and another one in the headlight bucket. Check the wiring diagram for your bike to find the colours. It could be open at either of those points too? Good luck!

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Re: Oil Pressure switch
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2023, 06:07:51 PM »
Well, I got my new switch and everything is good.  All the helpful replies pointed to a failure with the original unit.
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Re: Oil Pressure switch
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2023, 01:16:55 AM »
Well, I got my new switch and everything is good.  All the helpful replies pointed to a failure with the original unit.
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So it was a faulty oil pressure switch that caused the light not to come on when not running with key on?
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Re: Oil Pressure switch
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2023, 04:40:24 AM »
The fix is in!

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Re: Oil Pressure switch
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2023, 05:18:20 AM »
Yes