Author Topic: Horrible Day...Horrible ride...I need some beer. (Read 1486 times)

GroovieGhoulie · « **on:** March 15, 2007, 01:49:42 PM »

So I go to ride the 750 since I just mounted new tires on it. It's hard to start, has no pep and "feels" wrong. I pull over after about 1/2 mile and feel the pipes. One and Four are burning hot, but two and three are only warm and can be grabbed with no ill effect.

So now I have a SOHC2.

I limp home and see that I have no spark on two and three. Pull the plug caps and set the plug wires near the head. Big blue spark. Reinstall the caps. Try the outside plugs in the inside plug wires. Spark. So I have some bad plugs.

Head down to the auto parts store for four new plugs. Leaving the parking lot, a guy pulls in front of me and I bump him. Less than a fender bender, but still a big deal because he was an azzhole and DEMANDED that the cops be called. My car's worse than his, but he wanted to be a dick. Typical Louisiana redneck trash.

Anyway, cops show up and take information and I leave. Get home and deal with all the insurance bullsh*t.

Then I install the new plugs and the bike is running better than ever! So I throw on my stuff and head out. Eight miles down the road, I start losing power, as if I need to switch to reserve. I have plenty of gas, but I switch. Still losing power.

I pull over and the engine is revving fine, but the bike will not move. Look back and the rear brake is smoking. Seems the caliper wasn't as free as I thought it was, so it heated up and seized. Cooked the pads and blued the rotor. Waited until the disc and caliper cooled while I thought on what to do. They were so hot, they melted part of the finger on my leather glove when I accidentally touched the rotor . Using the tools in the bike, I managed to open up the caliper and remove the pads with the intention to limp home using front brake only.

I made it home, but now the FRONT brake is dragging a little and it looks like the miss is returning under load because the thing does not want to accelerate like it did when the plugs were fresh and I heard and felt it miss while riding home. It idles and revs fine in neutral though.

Now it looks like I'm gonna need to totally rebuild the rear caliper, the front caliper and troubleshoot the ignition system because I'm not sure where the gremlin is.

Tell me again WHY we monkey with these old machines? It's GOT to be insanity.

Pwfyrcat1 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 15, 2007, 01:52:15 PM »

Tequila

kghost · « **Reply #2 on:** March 15, 2007, 01:53:59 PM »

That sucks goat ass.

Bummer bro

nickjtc · « **Reply #3 on:** March 15, 2007, 01:55:39 PM »

Quote from: Pwfyrcat1 on March 15, 2007, 01:52:15 PM

Tequila

+ beer. Lots of it. Take time away from the old girl and come back with love in your heart, because you know she's worth it!

PS. This kind of stuff could happen with a newer bike too, so don't beat yourself up too much over it. Think of it as a way of keeping us entertained on the forum.

GroovieGhoulie · « **Reply #4 on:** March 15, 2007, 01:59:05 PM »

Quote from: nickjtc on March 15, 2007, 01:55:39 PM

Quote from: Pwfyrcat1 on March 15, 2007, 01:52:15 PM
Tequila

+ beer. Lots of it. Take time away from the old girl and come back with love in your heart, because you know she's worth it!

PS. This kind of stuff could happen with a newer bike too, so don't beat yourself up too much over it. Think of it as a way of keeping us entertained on the forum.

Well it IS practically new. It's my '76 750F with (now) 760 miles on it. Just did the 600-mile service, mounted new tires and was taking her out for some tests.

Seems she was a piece of Living Room Art for about 30 years, so she sat, which is bad. Now that she's back in the land of the living and rolling, issues are cropping up.

Remember, it's BAD to let bikes sit!!!

Rhonda750F · « **Reply #5 on:** March 15, 2007, 02:02:08 PM »

Hey man, these bikes are just like us. Sometimes we have good days, sometime bad.....
Take it in stride and see it as an opportunity to improve the bike.
Oh, and take some alcohol to see your way through the initial frustration.

Once loaded it should all be clear!

andy750 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 15, 2007, 02:03:43 PM »

Sorry to hear about your troubles Ghoulie and I totally agree its bad to let bikes sit -I bought a CB750k6 that had sat for 10 years - it looked great, all stock but EVERY bolt was seized - made it all that bit harder when you wanted to replace the speedo cable or tach or something...anything!

Good luck in getting it fixed!
cheers
Andy

ofreen · « **Reply #7 on:** March 15, 2007, 02:15:01 PM »

Can't blame you for being mad at that ancient POS. How much do you want for it? It would make a good parts bike for mine.

heffay · « **Reply #8 on:** March 15, 2007, 02:28:30 PM »

this is a longshot but i had a similar problem on an ex500. would rev out fine while not in gear but, under load it was hesitant.

it was a petcock issue.

TwoTired · « **Reply #9 on:** March 15, 2007, 02:55:19 PM »

Quote from: GroovieGhoulie on March 15, 2007, 01:49:42 PM

So now I have a SOHC2.

I limp home and see that I have no spark on two and three. Pull the plug caps and set the plug wires near the head. Big blue spark. Reinstall the caps. Try the outside plugs in the inside plug wires. Spark. So I have some bad plugs.

I made it home, but now the FRONT brake is dragging a little and it looks like the miss is returning under load because the thing does not want to accelerate like it did when the plugs were fresh and I heard and felt it miss while riding home. It idles and revs fine in neutral though.

Check those new plugs and see if they are sooted up and fouled again. If so, you've got carb issues. Sticking floats, perhaps.

Cheers,

GroovieGhoulie · « **Reply #10 on:** March 15, 2007, 02:57:08 PM »

Quote from: TwoTired on March 15, 2007, 02:55:19 PM

Quote from: GroovieGhoulie on March 15, 2007, 01:49:42 PM
So now I have a SOHC2.

I limp home and see that I have no spark on two and three. Pull the plug caps and set the plug wires near the head. Big blue spark. Reinstall the caps. Try the outside plugs in the inside plug wires. Spark. So I have some bad plugs.

I made it home, but now the FRONT brake is dragging a little and it looks like the miss is returning under load because the thing does not want to accelerate like it did when the plugs were fresh and I heard and felt it miss while riding home. It idles and revs fine in neutral though.

Check those new plugs and see if they are sooted up and fouled again. If so, you've got carb issues. Sticking floats, perhaps.

Cheers,

Sticking open, causing it to run rich?

736cc · « **Reply #11 on:** March 15, 2007, 04:03:56 PM »

I'd replace 2-3 coil and all new points and condensors (if they aren't new).

ofreen · « **Reply #12 on:** March 15, 2007, 05:26:22 PM »

Quote from: GroovieGhoulie on March 15, 2007, 01:49:42 PM

Tell me again WHY we monkey with these old machines? It's GOT to be insanity.

If there is an old 750 Honda out there worth monkeying around with, yours is it. Your bike is basically identical to mine, and my 750 is still going strong at over 105,000 miles. It wasn't always like that. My 750 sat in storage while I lived in the bush in Alaska for 6 years. I knew when I got the bike back, I'd have to bite the bullet and tear down brake calipers, clean carbs, etc. I pickled it before putting it into storage, but still had plenty to do. Since then, I've never had any trouble with it. Just accept that you have to go through the chores that must be done. When you are finished, you will have something that most of us could only have if we had a time machine.

medic09 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 15, 2007, 05:34:53 PM »

A: I'm really sorry to hear this.

B: Welcome home! What you were hearing today from your needy bike is a lot better than the sound of big Kalshnikov rounds thunking into stuff too near for comfort.

C: Follow all of the previously given advice (tequila, beer, etc.).

D: Welcome Home!

putnaja1 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 15, 2007, 06:01:01 PM »

Hey, that's right! I haven't been here in a while, and last I checked, you were deploying out to Iraq.. Good to see ya back!

grumburg · « **Reply #15 on:** March 15, 2007, 06:18:08 PM »

Just found out tonight a very good friend has inoperable cancer............You'll get over it.

BobbyR · « **Reply #16 on:** March 15, 2007, 06:31:03 PM »

When you say that 2 & 3 cylinders are out it points to ignition. These things use waste spark and the cylinders are paired up. I was rolling alog and I too became a SOHC 2 about five miles from home. They make an interesting sound don;t they? What I found was that the wire leading out of the points had frayed. I am no genius I just started wiggling things and got lucky. They, or the PO did not route the wire very well. Bears looking at.

GroovieGhoulie · « **Reply #17 on:** March 15, 2007, 06:31:39 PM »

Quote from: grumburg on March 15, 2007, 06:18:08 PM

Just found out tonight a very good friend has inoperable cancer............You'll get over it.

Well, faced with that, I think I will...

Negative waves man...

heffay · « **Reply #18 on:** March 15, 2007, 06:39:05 PM »

no positive waves... we're sending positive waves.

Quote from: grumburg on March 15, 2007, 06:18:08 PM

Just found out tonight a very good friend has inoperable cancer............You'll get over it.

so will your friend.

grumburg · « **Reply #19 on:** March 15, 2007, 07:06:43 PM »

Sorry for the bad vibes.

medic09 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 15, 2007, 08:08:41 PM »

BTW, I know tequila was recommended; but I like cold shots of Arack out of the freezer, myself. Mmmmmm...

Then again, a cool (not cold!) single malt whiskey helps one see things philosophically...

Then again...

Hang in there!

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Author Topic: Horrible Day...Horrible ride...I need some beer. (Read 1486 times)