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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2024, 06:43:02 AM »
Tru Disk here as well, excellent work.
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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2024, 09:33:18 AM »
Modern brake lines and second disc fixed the brakes for me on the K0
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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2024, 11:09:52 AM »
Ya they probably put it on a surface grinder. Can make it very flat that way.

Tom is very available by phone most any time. He told me he uses a Blanchard machine,whatever that is.

This is the one he did on my little Honda 200cc mini-bike CB125.
The bike has a mechanical,cable operated caliper,but now stops Very fast.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2024, 05:27:48 PM by grcamna2 »
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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2024, 11:19:08 AM »
Tom is very available by phone most any time. He told me he uses a Blanchard machine,whatever that is.
That's a rotary surface grinder. Does a beautiful job grinding things flat! Cheers, Bill
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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2024, 11:55:44 AM »
Godfreys Garage also does great work on our sohc disks and he is a member.  He drills and thins the disks to save unsprung weight.  https://godfferysgarage.com/

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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2024, 06:13:26 PM »
TrueDisk is the way to go. Excellent work with flat grind and drill for me and my K7. The front brake feels as good and progressive as the Brembo on my BMW. Reasonable cost and quick turn around as well

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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2024, 06:57:17 PM »
TrueDisk is the way to go. Excellent work with flat grind and drill for me and my K7. The front brake feels as good and progressive as the Brembo on my BMW. Reasonable cost and quick turn around as well

Here's one True Disk just did for me for one of my bikes;he uses a Blanchard grinder.
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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2024, 07:28:06 PM »
TrueDisk is the way to go. Excellent work with flat grind and drill for me and my K7. The front brake feels as good and progressive as the Brembo on my BMW. Reasonable cost and quick turn around as well

Here's one he just did for me for one of my bikes.

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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2024, 08:17:08 PM »
TrueDisk is the way to go. Excellent work with flat grind and drill for me and my K7. The front brake feels as good and progressive as the Brembo on my BMW. Reasonable cost and quick turn around as well

Here's one he just did for me for one of my bikes.

Is that the GS 450 rotor?

Yes  :)
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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2024, 07:23:13 AM »
If I prefer to keep it simple and just like to deglaze the rotor a bit, what grit sandpaper do I need?
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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2024, 08:37:59 AM »
Godfreys Garage also does great work on our sohc disks and he is a member.  He drills and thins the disks to save unsprung weight.  https://godfferysgarage.com/

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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2024, 08:50:11 AM »
 Hey colined, did any of this help?
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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2024, 02:40:42 PM »
If I prefer to keep it simple and just like to deglaze the rotor a bit, what grit sandpaper do I need?

I just used a palm orbital sander on my 550 disc, using 100 grit and it looks much better.

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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2024, 05:28:18 AM »
If I prefer to keep it simple and just like to deglaze the rotor a bit, what grit sandpaper do I need?

I just used a palm orbital sander on my 550 disc, using 100 grit and it looks much better.

Is that a valid technique or do you risk a wavy disc surface? I was about to shell out to get mine resurfaced, if I can get it done in my garage I'll save myself the $175 + S&H
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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2024, 05:52:43 AM »
If I prefer to keep it simple and just like to deglaze the rotor a bit, what grit sandpaper do I need?

I just used a palm orbital sander on my 550 disc, using 100 grit and it looks much better.

Is that a valid technique or do you risk a wavy disc surface? I was about to shell out to get mine resurfaced, if I can get it done in my garage I'll save myself the $175 + S&H

I don't see how it could hurt, but if I get brake vibrations later I will send it off to have it trued.
BTW, it was just a light scuffing to clean it up some.

Picture is right after (not wiped down with acetone yet).

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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2024, 06:09:36 AM »
If I prefer to keep it simple and just like to deglaze the rotor a bit, what grit sandpaper do I need?

I just used a palm orbital sander on my 550 disc, using 100 grit and it looks much better.

Is that a valid technique or do you risk a wavy disc surface? I was about to shell out to get mine resurfaced, if I can get it done in my garage I'll save myself the $175 + S&H

I don't see how it could hurt, but if I get brake vibrations later I will send it off to have it trued.
BTW, it was just a light scuffing to clean it up some.

Picture is right after (not wiped down with acetone yet).

I measured mine before and after and the thickness reduction is negligible. With a palm sander (or my rotating set up) we are just cleaning off the existing. But, it DOES  make for a noticeable improvement with a new set of pads. Looks good too!

If your disc is warped or severely corroded, this won’t fix it.

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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #41 on: January 12, 2024, 08:15:57 AM »
Good to know. I'll be breaking out the 100 grit because they're in decent enough shape. Am definitely doing new pads though.
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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2024, 12:56:26 PM »
You are highly unlikely to ever find an sohc4 rotor that is grooved too deeply or warped ...just too damn thick and hard...which is also a big part of why they don't really stop your bike very fast.  About the only way they ever get damaged is in a extremely severe collision.
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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #43 on: January 12, 2024, 01:02:58 PM »
  The best thing I have found after restoring my '76 750 was going back to stock Honda pucks I had since 1977.  Original pads from honda.  After restoration, I tried several puck manufactures and they all really were very poor at stopping power.  I then put on the "new" oem pucks I had saved for many years.  Instant increase in stopping power.  I do not ride my bikes enough to ever wear them out given I'm not a hard breaker and I coast a lot or let engine slow me down.  The new material in bike brake pads absolutely sucks.

Iron rotors are the best for stopping power.  Stainless Steel is pretty poor but it does not rust like iron.  The best set up I have found is old stock original Honda discs, clean rotors and TPFE lined stainless Steel hoses.  This is what I have now after restoring my 76' 750.  Front brake is crisp response, tight for the lever grab and does a good job of stopping the bike in an emergency situation.  Two fingers on the brake lever is all I need, three in a panic stop.  Very linear response with clean MC and caliper with SS lines. 

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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #44 on: January 13, 2024, 06:25:33 AM »
Where do you gents buy your pads from?
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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2024, 08:24:18 AM »
If your local Honda dealer can order a set from HONDA, go there first.


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Re: Poor front brakes
« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2024, 09:09:25 AM »
Find really old NOS pads with asbestos? ;)
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