Topic: Will a new EU directive stop us repairing old cars?

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[carnivorous chicken]

...but the UK left the EU...

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Ah but the EU still exists, to do it to other countries. Don't forget this will apply to motorcycles as well.

[CycleRanger]

My uncle has a country place that no one knows about.
He said it used to be a farm before the motor law..

[Alan F.]

My uncle has a country place that no one knows about.
He said it used to be a farm before the motor law..

Same.

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  Banning of motorcycles

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First reading in Canadian Parliament of Bill C-372.  This enactment enacts the Fossil Fuel Advertising Act to prohibit the promotion of fossil fuels except in accordance with the provisions of the Act.

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More control.   

[jgger]

Very sad, indeed.

So here we are facing something purely political and forum rules do not allow politics. I think perhaps the mods should post up some specific ground rules for this thread. This is clearly an example of out of control agencies are making rules, with threats, to govern. They don't have the power or authority to make laws, so this is how they get around.

Please don't drag specific politicians by name or political parties into this thread and let's have a real conversation.

My $00.02, let's see if we can behave.

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Thru the back door I am trying to make aware that there a group self elected people in this world that are enacting there plans that most of us will never agree to. But a large population are aware of these self elected plans that are going  to change the future, which involves are beloved motorcycles and gas power vehicles. I feel the only way to make aware to the ones that seem to believe that everything is going back to normal or is back to normal, is showing some of these videos that will effect our future.   

[jgger]

I am with you all the way, 1080. My hope is this turns into, or stays, an actual conversation and not a cat fight.

Thank you for posting.

[ofreen]

I am with you all the way, 1080. My hope is this turns into, or stays, an actual conversation and not a cat fight.

By ignoring the elephant in the room?

[HondaMan]

Does the EU have a method available to the people to go up against the bureaucrats with, legally, like  a 'petition' or something? I've been watching the farmers in the Netherlands re: nitrogen fertilizer being outlawed, which is a similar situation.

[jgger]

I am with you all the way, 1080. My hope is this turns into, or stays, an actual conversation and not a cat fight.

By ignoring the elephant in the room?

Not ignoring the elephant at all, but I guess the actual elephant is trying to have a conversation about policies that can eventually affect all of us. This is a hard needle to therad. It kind of seems strange that they would go after motorcycle parts suppliers as a beta program, I guess we are all a little  bit like the frogs in a pan of water on the stove. I'm surprised that this didn't kick off in California  first.

[ofreen]

It kind of seems strange that they would go after motorcycle parts suppliers as a beta program,

Generally you go after the low hanging fruit first, which motorcycle riders certainly are. Not that many of us in the great scheme of things.

The elephant in the room is that this subject is inherently political.  You can't get away from politics and have a meaningful conversation about it because the impetus for these restrictions are all coming from one side in the political spectrum.

[jgger]

So the elephant's name is conundrum?

But this is the kind of stuff that an organization needs to stand against, not individuals. So who is leading the pushback ?

[ofreen]

Uncle Tony has an interesting take on which is more environmentally friendly - keeping old cars going, or scrapping them and buying new cars -

[1080]

HondaMan, I hope maybe some that lives in the EU banner may give a better answer to that. The justice system is very expensive to fight anyone in court. They (the unelected ones) know this. I am sure it can be done , but we all must be aware of the people that stand up for are rights and we need to back them up. If we don't look back on history and learn from it we will repeat it. I forgot who said it and how the quote goes. It is not the first time that food is used as a weapon(making farming a bad thing).  One of the biggest problem is accountability. It's some ones else fault. Freedom is everyone's business. If we do not put up a fight they(unelected) win.
Get informed, it is not a conspiracy it is conspiracy fact and it will effect are beloved motorcycles. We being attacked in so many ways, its hard to know which way to go. 

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Ofreen, I have seen that video and I agree with him.

 Also note that EV's are just becoming your first disposable vehicles ,just as did the consumer electronics. 

[jgger]

Both of those videos are interesting., thanks.

Greg to bring the " new parts" points home, check out the video about the Chrysler turbine that is suggested after your's played. Massive R andD went into that only to be scrapped.

[1080]

EU wants to ban chrome plating. What ever is started in Europe is pushed in North America at some time later.     

[ofreen]

Hey! quit trying to cheer me up!

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[carnivorous chicken]

I mean, that 5hit is just funny.