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Offline 88BuckMeister

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550Four emblem question
« on: February 12, 2024, 10:20:14 AM »
I was told on some fuel tanks, the emblem is held on by screws. I don't know if that's true, but I did order the correct locking tabs from my fuel tank emblem. Having said that, the 550Four emblems on the side covers have the same plastic stud-type fasteners, and on the back side, there were what looked like star lock-washers that just pressed on. When you look up the part number for those in the IPC, searching that part number shows what appears to be a flat tinnerman (used for screws), not a star washer type thingie. Is that correct? I'm posting pics to show what came off, and what the IPC part number search brought up. Help please!!!

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Re: 550Four emblem question
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2024, 12:15:22 PM »
I found some starlock fasteners somewhere, maybe (probably) Home Depot.
It was ten years ago.
Amazon sells kits of different sizes.
More than you could ever need.
https://www.amazon.com/SpzcdZa-Internal-Assortment-Fasteners-Finish65Mn/dp/B07MHC5GHS/
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Re: 550Four emblem question
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2024, 12:21:48 PM »
Parts books do not necessarily show exactly what it is, the description should
Sometimes known as fastnuts
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Re: 550Four emblem question
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2024, 03:53:49 PM »
So two different shape push nuts have been used to hold on the side cover badges over the years. I don't know about the 550 but I think the (Australian) 500 maybe used round ones? I found similar ones cheap that work, but the oem ones when you can find them are stupidly expensive!
The tank badge ones I had to pay way too much for genuine oem Honda ones.
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Re: 550Four emblem question
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2024, 08:01:39 PM »
I was told on some fuel tanks, the emblem is held on by screws. I don't know if that's true, but I did order the correct locking tabs from my fuel tank emblem. Having said that, the 550Four emblems on the side covers have the same plastic stud-type fasteners, and on the back side, there were what looked like star lock-washers that just pressed on. When you look up the part number for those in the IPC, searching that part number shows what appears to be a flat tinnerman (used for screws), not a star washer type thingie. Is that correct? I'm posting pics to show what came off, and what the IPC part number search brought up. Help please!!!
The 550 fuel tank emblems have pins also but have different holder "nuts" than the side covers use. These you put in the holes on the tank 1st, then push the emblem pins in.

87311-634-600 is the tank nut, still available from Honda. #73 on the fiche.

https://www.southsoundhonda.com/--xpartsstream#/Honda_Powersports/CB550KA_(76)_550_FOUR%2c_JPN%2c_VIN%23_CB550K-1230001/FUEL_TANK_%2b_AIR_CLEANER/f77665b3-598c-4e35-ad4b-7a873770e3e5/e4d1e2bc-0ddd-4900-af3f-466f033bd48a/y

#75 for the side cover speed nut.
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Re: 550Four emblem question
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2024, 08:15:45 PM »
500,550,750 all have some modeles with the tanknpin clips and the 500 generator emblem same type but i think different size
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Re: 550Four emblem question
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2024, 08:17:11 PM »
You could use those locking tabs for the fuel tank emblems but I would also use the 3m double back tape. I didn't use those locking tabs just the double back tape. Make sure the emblem fits nicely to the tank before you adhere them.You can pick up the locking washers for the side covers at any ACE hardware with good inventory. Take you side badges to test fit, if you find ones that are a bit loos give them a gentle tap to close them a bit. If they seem to tight use a dremmel bit to open them up a hair. I also stamp out rubber washers and use them under the push lock washers to cushion them a bit. I push them on with a small socket
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Re: 550Four emblem question
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2024, 08:21:00 PM »
The 550 fiche above shows a rectangular speed nut (3mm) why? I have no idea because the 750 fiche shows the round 3mm are still available.

The bike round speed nuts are a different number for the 750, #17 also (3mm)

https://www.southsoundhonda.com/--xpartsstream#/Honda_Powersports/CB750KA_(76)_750_FOUR%2c_JPN%2c_VIN%23_CB750-2540001_TO_CB750-2575894/BATTERY_COVER_%2b_OIL_TANK_COVER_%2b_TOOLS/b3d05c73-22e7-4620-b018-132301d96b6e/e9decd86-3d64-437a-a30c-cac0c724497f/y

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Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
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Re: 550Four emblem question
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2024, 08:22:17 PM »
I forgot to post the picture of the tank nut
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My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A