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Ohm Meter Question
« on: March 02, 2024, 01:30:55 PM »
 I was given this ohm meter to test my spark plug caps to be sure they are 10 ohm. It comes with two black leads and one red lead and no directions. I do not know how to connect this up to the plug cap. I did look at the inside of this meter and there is a good C cell and good 9 V battery in there. I just don’t know where to start. I don’t want to burn the unit up. I don’t know where the right test selector switch is supposed to be or the left ohm dial is supposed to be. Any instructions you guys can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your expertise. PS I did check online, and no owners manual can be found.
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Re: Ohm Meter Question
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2024, 01:43:39 PM »
You don’t show any of the wire inputs to the interior of the unit. Strange that there is no model or information background on it. You cannot burn it out doing ohm measurements as it is not using a voltage input to the device.
Spark plug caps are normally 5K ohm not 10 ohms unless they are very early 50’s or 60’s non resistor styles. Any plug caps from the 70’s plus are resistor styles in most cases and should measure 5K ohms.
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Re: Ohm Meter Question
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2024, 02:00:40 PM »
The only wire inputs are shown on the handle. 2 black and 1 red with alligator clips. The plug caps are Nichiwa XD10F for a 76GL1000. No other input jacks on the unit.
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2024, 02:07:48 PM »
Place is out of business. Maybe one of you guys have this unit.
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2024, 02:08:05 PM »
Without knowing the exact make and model of the meter to look up instructions, or the original handbook you may as well throw it away, in 40 years i have never seen a meter with 3 attached leads
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Re: Ohm Meter Question
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2024, 02:16:01 PM »
The only wire inputs are shown on the handle. 2 black and 1 red with alligator clips. The plug caps are Nichiwa XD10F for a 76GL1000. No other input jacks on the unit.

Your caps are 5K ohm then not 10 ohm and normally best practice to replace 50 year old ones. The internal resistors inside the caps get sketchy and can cause intermittent issues or other problems. NGK has the equivalent plug caps for not a lot of money and some new wire won’t be a bad idea either.

You get 10K ohm with a resistor plug and resistor cap, yet not the best idea to run two resistor circuits. A resistor cap and a non resistor plug is better if possible.
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Re: Ohm Meter Question
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2024, 02:20:06 PM »
I started to putz with it since I can’t burn it out. Think I have it. Red lead and black lead to plug cap, right selector to Rx1000, then adjust left ohm setting to what I want which is 10. Bottom indicator shows pickup output “normal “.
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Re: Ohm Meter Question
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2024, 02:20:11 PM »
switch it on and use the left zero knob to zero it,the the right knob flick it to rx1000,touch two probes together until the meter needle jumps,to test caps just insert the probes either way around into each end of the cap,if its good the needle will swing to around number 5,times 1000 = 5000,with the right hand knob set to rx100 the needle should jump to 50 on the scale,times 100=5000.

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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2024, 02:35:51 PM »
The caps on this bike are XD10F so you say I should switch to 5…will do. The PO was running D8ES-L with those caps. Maybe with the cap 5 and D8EA it’ll work.
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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2024, 02:37:01 PM »
Thanks for all the input…
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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2024, 02:49:33 PM »
if they are 10 ohm caps itll go to 10x1000,zero the unit first

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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2024, 02:54:19 PM »
 Touch the leads together, then set the needle at zero. Then check the caps on the 1,000 ohm setting.
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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2024, 05:57:27 PM »
To measure Ohms, set to the scale you want. Touch the to leads together and set the needle to 0.  Take the measurement.

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Re: Ohm Meter Question
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2024, 06:14:51 PM »
Johnie,your GL1000 takes NGK #XD05F resistor caps.
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2024, 07:34:00 PM »
That's a REAL nice VOM! They are hard to come by now, having been beaten down pricewise by cheap Chinese garbage versions. Those type of units often cost $40-$100 when dollars were worth something, much to be desired.
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Re: Ohm Meter Question
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2024, 09:23:04 PM »
I appreciate all the help guys. I will go with the 5 ohm new NGK caps. Hondaman thanks for letting me know this is a nice unit. I got it from a friend who I worked for at the service station. He retired and gave it to me. Lost manual...but with everyones help I will keep it running. Thank you all again!
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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2024, 09:26:06 PM »
Johnie,your GL1000 takes NGK #XD05F resistor caps.
Thanks Bill...the PO had 10's in here. I thought I needed to do the same....live and learn.
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2024, 02:57:32 AM »
Without knowing the exact make and model of the meter to look up instructions, or the original handbook you may as well throw it away, in 40 years i have never seen a meter with 3 attached leads

We are purely guessing but many meters can be put in circuit to measure amps and some have a place to plug in leads so there is a shunt resister included for higher amperage’s. I’d guess that is what the third lead is but again just a guess.

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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2024, 03:38:55 AM »
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switch it on and use the left zero knob to zero it,the the right knob flick it to rx1000,touch two probes together until the meter needle jumps,to test caps just insert the probes either way around into each end of the cap,if its good the needle will swing to around number 5,times 1000 = 5000,with the right hand knob set to rx100 the needle should jump to 50 on the scale,times 100=5000.

Dude, you are as old as I lol. Got any rotary phones hanging about? ;D  (Short probes and adjust meter for accuracy.)
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Re: Ohm Meter Question
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2024, 06:49:42 AM »
I appreciate all the help guys. I will go with the 5 ohm new NGK caps. Hondaman thanks for letting me know this is a nice unit. I got it from a friend who I worked for at the3 service station. He retired and gave it to me. Lost manual...but with everyones help I will keep it running. Thank you all again!
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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2024, 02:14:57 PM »
I appreciate all the help guys. I will go with the 5 ohm new NGK caps. Hondaman thanks for letting me know this is a nice unit. I got it from a friend who I worked for at the3 service station. He retired and gave it to me. Lost manual...but with everyones help I will keep it running. Thank you all again!
Cool gift indeed.
When you are not using it, take the batteries out of it so they don't leak and ruin the unit.
Good point Stu. In fact the C battery in the unit had a sell buy date of 2011 on it. A side note to this story...the guy I worked for in the 70's and 80's closed down the DX service station in '92. The meter has been sitting in his garage for a long time. He came down with alzheimer's and gave it to me. This guy was such an honest mechanic and made a real impression on me (a high school kid). I witnessed customers come in for a car problem and wanted a complete tune-up (plugs, points, condenser, rotor, cap, etc). He found only a bad plug or plug wire. He could have sold them a complete new tune up, but was so honest and only did the needed fix. I thought that was the sign of a true business owner and he really inspired me. Needless to say the customers all came back in the future.
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Re: Ohm Meter Question
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2024, 03:37:14 PM »
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switch it on and use the left zero knob to zero it,the the right knob flick it to rx1000,touch two probes together until the meter needle jumps,to test caps just insert the probes either way around into each end of the cap,if its good the needle will swing to around number 5,times 1000 = 5000,with the right hand knob set to rx100 the needle should jump to 50 on the scale,times 100=5000.

Dude, you are as old as I lol. Got any rotary phones hanging about? ;D  (Short probes and adjust meter for accuracy.)

I do! Got 1 rotary and 2 old-style (Princess) phones, one dial and one touch.

Need one? ;)
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Re: Ohm Meter Question
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2024, 04:31:33 PM »
I appreciate all the help guys. I will go with the 5 ohm new NGK caps. Hondaman thanks for letting me know this is a nice unit. I got it from a friend who I worked for at the3 service station. He retired and gave it to me. Lost manual...but with everyones help I will keep it running. Thank you all again!
Cool gift indeed.
When you are not using it, take the batteries out of it so they don't leak and ruin the unit.
Good point Stu. In fact the C battery in the unit had a sell buy date of 2011 on it. A side note to this story...the guy I worked for in the 70's and 80's closed down the DX service station in '92. The meter has been sitting in his garage for a long time. He came down with alzheimer's and gave it to me. This guy was such an honest mechanic and made a real impression on me (a high school kid). I witnessed customers come in for a car problem and wanted a complete tune-up (plugs, points, condenser, rotor, cap, etc). He found only a bad plug or plug wire. He could have sold them a complete new tune up, but was so honest and only did the needed fix. I thought that was the sign of a true business owner and he really inspired me. Needless to say the customers all came back in the future.

I enjoy meeting anyone with integrity similar to what you described Johnie;we need to have them in today's society as it seems nobody knows what 'good' looks like.
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« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2024, 07:10:34 PM »
Right on there Bill! I wanted to be like the boss and not cheat the customer. He taught me a lot working there. He had a ton of friends and is almost 85 now. Of course that was the norm back in the "old days." :)  I was cheated by a dishonest garage last year and will now be changing my own oil.
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« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2024, 12:01:53 AM »
id just toss the old batteries and get fresh ones.

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« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2024, 07:39:41 AM »
  I was cheated by a dishonest garage last year and will now be changing my own oil.

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« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2024, 10:04:57 AM »
id just toss the old batteries and get fresh ones.
Done...
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« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2024, 10:06:12 AM »
  I was cheated by a dishonest garage last year and will now be changing my own oil.

Hope the Chevelle was not "misused"
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« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2024, 08:13:52 PM »
I've got one of those old combo test units.
It's full of analog goodness!
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« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2024, 12:07:41 AM »
Without knowing the exact make and model of the meter to look up instructions, or the original handbook you may as well throw it away, in 40 years i have never seen a meter with 3 attached leads
Don't throw it away! Most of the times I use one of my old analogue meters. Usually measuring amps sucks with these oldstyle meters.
Important: do not measure Ohms when lead is live (current running).
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« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2024, 06:48:34 AM »
Without knowing the exact make and model of the meter to look up instructions, or the original handbook you may as well throw it away, in 40 years i have never seen a meter with 3 attached leads
Don't throw it away! Most of the times I use one of my old analogue meters. Usually measuring amps sucks with these oldstyle meters.
Important: do not measure Ohms when lead is live (current running).

I saw a guy at work use his Fluke meter set on Ohms to test a fuse that was in circuit at 480V. Little spark jumped, meter shut off. Restart meter and meter was fine. He says "we wont tell anybody about THAT"...and I was thinking "BS I'm a gonna tell everybody" LOL. I have seen pictures of meters that were not sealed and somebody used them outdoors on 480VAC and there was frost inside the meter and it exploded.

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« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2024, 07:11:55 AM »
id just toss the old batteries and get fresh ones.

The analog meter TS depended upon batteries being good or you could have erroneous readings….
Be careful to put both screws opr all screws back in, forgetting one you are likely to l;one if if you think Ikll put it in later…at least I have.
You have a nice unit. The plastic screw in the face of the meter is used to adjust the meter so the meter pointer is pointed to zero. You use a plastic screwdriver on these so no magnetic interference or magnetism from the tool is affecting your adjustment or you don’t put any magnetism into the device’s coil. Even regular metal screwdrivers can have a little magnetic residue. Most stainless steels are not magnetic but they are not Strong steels like tool steels that are properly hardened.
The usually jeweled meter will not or should nit require adjustment very often, like very rarely to never ideally.
Replace both batteries with fresh ones.

They unscrew from the spark plug leads. Trim off about 1/4 inch of the end of your spark plug wire when you remove it from the lead. This ensures it screws into the spark plug lead wire and it accesses good copper or fresh copper when you attach or reattach the spark plug cap. Our spark plug wires a copper core wire, a non-resistance wire. This is as opposed to all modern cars and bikes which use a resistance core wire, a carbon impregnated core that has resistive wire properties. It is stranded abd moist cannot be reterminated or do not have replaceable caps but you replace the entire wire when the insulation breaks down and you have leakage through the insulation. If you are dry and the ground is bands it hasn’t been raining if you get shocked by brushing against or momentarily touching the insulation of your coil wires the wires a need changed or in case of permanently attached wires you either have to do some surgery on your coils to replace the wires, or you replace the coil and wires completely.
So. Sometimes good to figure out if the coil wire is good first. Trying to crank and touching the wire during cranking, you get lit up and your arm hurts from elbow down usually, it is time to replace the wires or the coils plus the caps…

After you pull the caps puff isf the boots are good then you keep going…


As you found. The black that causes meter movement to red probe/clip after you change the right knob to the R x 1000 as has been said…

Remove your spark plug caps.
You cannot measure them in circuit, attached to the coils.

Put the negative or black lead inside the cap to make a connection to the tree in Al inside the cap. Since you have alligator clips you can take a piece of copper wire your sand the copper that is being clipped to to make sure there is no oxidation or stuff that is making the connection have a little resistance. You can give it a light scrape with a blade edge to ensure you have bright clean copper. The other end of I presume solid wire that you are using and a probe extension or spin your own problem is going to get the same light sanding or scrape to give bright copper too. House wiring or heavier can make a decent extension to your resistance measurement abd being stiff like house wiring allows you to porters firmly on what’s you are probing with that end.

Once your touch the black and red probes together you adjust using the left hand dial to be zero on your ohm scale.

Once the meter has warmed up or been in use for a bit your ohm meter zero might drift slightly;up, this is characteristic of analog meters but openly after a few minutes should you see that drift. After taking readings if you see a steady movement of the zero then your batteries might be suspect or your meter could have a problem.
It usually is a slight movement. Anything significant is telling you the meter has a problem.

So red lead on one side and black on the other connection, be it the end that screws into the wire or the end that is attaching itself to the electrode on the end of the spark plug.

Then you read the meter scale and multiply your reading time 1000 to give you the reading.
The resistance scale goes to an infinity a very high value. In measuring with resistances and voltages you always start your measurements on higher than you expect scales and then lower the scale or setting on the meter so you don’t damage the meter pegging it hard against the stop or upper end of the scale.  Resistance range has a zero adjustment and you normally wont hurt the meter following that approach. Pegging the meter can damage the meter as it can slam the needle very very hard and that can damage the coil or bend the needle.

The 550 and 500 came with 10k ohm caps basically you cannot find some of the NGK caps now, as NGK quit making the bent ones I think. The long straight ones you can still get.
The bent ones were for the cylinder 2 & 3 on the CB fours
The XD05F NGK as Bill said.
Stu’s advice to pull the batteries is very good, these old analog devices can be ruined by leaky batteries.

The capacitors if anty go bad and some resistors breakdown with age or go out of range. These old meters can be repaired if people want to take the time and effort to disassemble, test components, replacer components which aged poorly after 50 to 75 years, or longer…
The voltage readings can get you in serious hot water…

Never try measuring the current of a MC or Auto battery as your meter is in line with the power feed and these meters are only capable of handling usually 10A unless it states different AND YOU HAVE to use the correct leads to measure the current, even on a VOM meter you often have a different black wire or often ground/negative wire probe for the voltage than the resistance. 

NEVER try to read powered OR operating circuits when measuring resistance or capacitance.

Components in a circuit often must be removed from that circuit or you can be measuring other paths in the circuit.
This is why troubleshooting bad component is difficult, And will often rely upon visual inspection clues when looking at electronics that are not working.
Without the schematics of a device you are often unable to troubleshoot it if t you do not know or have guidelines/troubleshooting from the maker of the product. The amount of effort to remove a component it is normally replaced rather than reinstalled. Capacitors often fail in old units, if the maker did not remove the markings from the capacitor, yes that sometimes was done, or the markings were removed from the transistors or IC chips or it was a custom chip.
So, some stuff could be reverse engineered, but many custom or other means were used to make it difficult to impossible to service.

That’s the beauty of non electronics in old bikes, simple techniques and methods and why electronics are often disposed or go to special shops who have the equipment and knowledge to start walking through a circuit. You quickly hit a wall in what you can do.
David- back in the desert SW!

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Re: Ohm Meter Question
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2024, 07:53:27 AM »
Beautiful meter.
While I love the simplicity of my K3 750, when my 2018 Colorado ZR2 had an A/C glitch recently I was able to quickly trace it to a random temperature sensor problem with the Blue Driver reader (about $100) I have. I just plugged it in and read the code on my phone, super slick.
I now have all the parts for the easy fix if it happens again.
But...........simple is good
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