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Offline Pbeattie89

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1973 cb750 where to apply case sealant
« on: March 17, 2024, 10:08:15 AM »
Hello everyone. I was just wondering where to apply the case sealant for my 73 cb750. It seems logical to apply sealant everywhere that I marked in red in the photo, but do I apply sealant to the 3 inside main journals marked in yellow. I assume that the thickness of the sealant may adversely affect the main bearing clearances. Would it be best to leave the inner ones without sealant?

P.S. The photo is of a junk case I have laying around. It's not the one that I'll be using.

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Re: 1973 cb750 where to apply case sealant
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2024, 10:20:23 AM »
The compound used should be so thin it shouldnt matter, but having said that i always used to
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Re: 1973 cb750 where to apply case sealant
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2024, 03:43:20 PM »
The compound used should be so thin it shouldnt matter, but having said that i always used to
So if I spread it super thin with my finger, I should be fine to use it on all the mating surfaces. Both red and yellow in the photo.

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Re: 1973 cb750 where to apply case sealant
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2024, 05:19:07 PM »
You are using hondabond or similar arent you? NEVER silicone
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Re: 1973 cb750 where to apply case sealant
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2024, 05:25:57 PM »
Ether honda bond or three bond 1184

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Re: 1973 cb750 where to apply case sealant
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2024, 06:32:44 PM »
Yup, you feel its a real con if you are only doing one engine, expensive tube to use about 2 pea sized bits then put the tube away till next time when its gone off!
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Re: 1973 cb750 where to apply case sealant
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2024, 06:36:09 PM »
Yup, you feel its a real con if you are only doing one engine, expensive tube to use about 2 pea sized bits then put the tube away till next time when its gone off!
I likley have 2 cases to go back together, so I'll use 4 peas

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Re: 1973 cb750 where to apply case sealant
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2024, 07:29:35 PM »
I use it on the side covers and cam cover, too. Just one side (the cover side).

Sealant on all your red lines is good: You won't need it down that middle rib now, though.

When Honda mated the cases they used an (old-style) silkscreen mask that laid on the case (lower) and then they squeegied on the sealant in one wipe. Very fast and effective, and very even, using a minimal amount. After the crank's bearings are all seated, reassembling the cases without the sealant at the main bearing bosses provides a (very) small reduction in case diameter, which is perfect for re-setting the bearing shells tightly. To find out how much this (very) small amount might be, I once tried a set of otherwise useless (chain into the backside) cases with the crank complete. I was surprised to find it was enough to show up in the Plastigage as 0.0002" smaller without the goo. That's sort of like shimming the used bearings, which was a popular pasttime on the farm with the old Ford tractors and their striaght-6 Ford engines: those got thin sheets of shim steel behind each bearing shell (5 mains in the 170 CID Ford Tractor Six), and in the process I learned it was very common to do this with older cars during WWII because of bearing shortages during those days.

In many of the 550s I have taken apart I find they benefit from not using the sealant around the main bearings, too: it seems like they often have marginally loose bearings...like more than 0.0022".
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Re: 1973 cb750 where to apply case sealant
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2024, 07:43:21 PM »
I have been using Locktite 518 on my cases and have been very happy with it. I think I have sealed 8 engines so far including one I had to open up again and change transmissions. I like it because it's a bit easier to work with and you dont have to worry about how much time you have to seal those cases up. It only starts to cure once they are bolted together. 
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