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Another CL77
« on: April 04, 2024, 03:19:56 PM »
Ok I will admit, I have a problem with the Honda 305 series.  Having just finished a CA77 Dream it is now time to start on the CL77, Scrambler.  I believe this will be the 5th or 6th one I have done.  All the past ones have been long sold and gone on to new owners, this one will be staying with the Dream and I must confess to checking the ads on occasion for a CB77, the Super Hawk, to complete the trio. I can't tell you what sparked this obsession, other than these were the bikes to have back in 1967 when I graduated from Spotsylvania County High School.  This one had a lot rust, but a good low miles motor that runs extremely well.  Going back to the black frame and Cloud Silver paint.  I have most of the parts needed on hand and will throw up some occasional shots as it progresses........


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Re: Another CL77
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2024, 06:52:18 PM »
I get it! Always one of my favourite. Just looks “right”!

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Re: Another CL77
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2024, 03:28:10 AM »
Nice. I remember getting a ride on my oldest brother's brand new 305 scrambler in 67/68. I was 11 or 12, it got my need for speed wiring in my brain Hooked Up!
I have a friend up here in NH that has a bunch of used 305 parts he wants to sell off as a lot, if you are interested. He might even have a dream still?? I know he had 2 NOS dream frames last summer.
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1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
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New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
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Re: Another CL77
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2024, 05:25:04 AM »
Nice. I remember getting a ride on my oldest brother's brand new 305 scrambler in 67/68. I was 11 or 12, it got my need for speed wiring in my brain Hooked Up!
I have a friend up here in NH that has a bunch of used 305 parts he wants to sell off as a lot, if you are interested. He might even have a dream still?? I know he had 2 NOS dream frames last summer.

It seems all the good stuff is way up North or on the West Coast.  Just to far away but you might tell your friend to do a little research on what parts he has.  Most of the 305 series were 3 to 4 year production models and parts prices are going through the roof, a good uncut front fender for a CL with the bail, with bring 450 to 500 bucks for example.  I just drove across the State to pick up a very good set of CL pipes and paid $675 for the set which is a decent buy.  The covers and pipes are pretty much rush free with good chrome.  When I got home and started cleaning them I discovered a crack in one flange when I cleaned out the carbon.  The seller is a good friend and had no idea the damage was present and with the thin metal it is a common problem. It is at the welding shop currently to be repaired with some skillful tig welding hopefully.  It always seems to be two steps forward and one step back dealing with vintage bikes, but I know I am preaching to the choir in that department.........

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Re: Another CL77
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2024, 08:20:59 AM »
I kind of like that red.
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2024, 09:14:50 AM »
Ok I will admit, I have a problem with the Honda 305 series.


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Re: Another CL77
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2024, 01:16:26 PM »
Nice. I remember getting a ride on my oldest brother's brand new 305 scrambler in 67/68. I was 11 or 12, it got my need for speed wiring in my brain Hooked Up!
I have a friend up here in NH that has a bunch of used 305 parts he wants to sell off as a lot, if you are interested. He might even have a dream still?? I know he had 2 NOS dream frames last summer.

It seems all the good stuff is way up North or on the West Coast.  Just to far away but you might tell your friend to do a little research on what parts he has.  Most of the 305 series were 3 to 4 year production models and parts prices are going through the roof, a good uncut front fender for a CL with the bail, with bring 450 to 500 bucks for example.  I just drove across the State to pick up a very good set of CL pipes and paid $675 for the set which is a decent buy.  The covers and pipes are pretty much rush free with good chrome.  When I got home and started cleaning them I discovered a crack in one flange when I cleaned out the carbon.  The seller is a good friend and had no idea the damage was present and with the thin metal it is a common problem. It is at the welding shop currently to be repaired with some skillful tig welding hopefully.  It always seems to be two steps forward and one step back dealing with vintage bikes, but I know I am preaching to the choir in that department.........

I have a chrome front fender that the rivets were loose.
I had a shop tig weld it and he used SS wire and the finished product came out nice.
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Re: Another CL77
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2024, 07:34:45 PM »
Is that front fender the aluminum one? If so, it's worth $700....
The CL77 was THE bike to have when I was in High School. The CB77 was a distant second (that's what I had).
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Re: Another CL77
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2024, 02:46:17 AM »
Is that front fender the aluminum one? If so, it's worth $700....
The CL77 was THE bike to have when I was in High School. The CB77 was a distant second (that's what I had).

No,not an aluminum one.
I suppose there is a decent aluminum one,somewhere in the world.
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Re: Another CL77
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2024, 07:37:42 AM »
I have a chrome 8 hole front fender in my shed cache minus the bail of course.  I just prefer the painted fenders, seems to fit the scrambler image better.  I guess I should throw a magnet on it to make sure it is not aluminum. After this build I will have quite a few extra parts, complete fairly decent set of pipes, front and rear wheels with passable chrome and excellent brake drums, extra set of carbs, and the real prize, a set of 1 1/2inch "Snuff or Nots" in original packaging.  I am on the fence about selling any of these items or any CB750 parts for that matter.  I tried putting some stuff on E bay a few years back and was taken back by the amount of fees they charged.  I understand they have improved the process since then with direct deposits into your bank account and so forth, but after fees and shipping is it worth the effort. Also there is the fact, as soon as the stuff is sold and gone out the door, another CL77 shows up with "you must buy me price" and there are no parts to bring it back.  This is the stuff I think about when you wake up at 3am to pee and can't go back to sleep........

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Re: Another CL77
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2024, 09:58:18 AM »
"This is the stuff I think about when you wake up at 3am to pee and can't go back to sleep........"

Totally understand and agree with that
I've let a few things go, but yes I too have a problem...... letting parts go is hard.
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My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
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Re: Another CL77
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2024, 10:24:46 AM »
I have a chrome 8 hole front fender in my shed cache minus the bail of course.  I just prefer the painted fenders, seems to fit the scrambler image better.  I guess I should throw a magnet on it to make sure it is not aluminum. After this build I will have quite a few extra parts, complete fairly decent set of pipes, front and rear wheels with passable chrome and excellent brake drums, extra set of carbs, and the real prize, a set of 1 1/2inch "Snuff or Nots" in original packaging.  I am on the fence about selling any of these items or any CB750 parts for that matter.  I tried putting some stuff on E bay a few years back and was taken back by the amount of fees they charged.  I understand they have improved the process since then with direct deposits into your bank account and so forth, but after fees and shipping is it worth the effort. Also there is the fact, as soon as the stuff is sold and gone out the door, another CL77 shows up with "you must buy me price" and there are no parts to bring it back.  This is the stuff I think about when you wake up at 3am to pee and can't go back to sleep........

I have not sold on Ebay for a while;I found they penalize a seller for that and hold their payments until the item is delivered to the seller  >:(
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Re: Another CL77
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2024, 03:42:53 PM »
"Cloud Silver" has landed....... I really came close to picking a silver color with more metallic or pearl or both, but went Honda original this time........





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Re: Another CL77
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2024, 03:50:43 PM »
Yeah Man  8) 8) 8)
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Re: Another CL77
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2024, 07:20:33 PM »
Ah, the look. Such memories!
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Someone sent me a link to an (years) old eBay sale of an NOS aluminum front fender for this bike. The sold price was over $700 (for a fender?).
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Re: Another CL77
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2024, 06:19:11 PM »
I went with JBS aftermarket shocks out of Australia due to the fact my stock set was really a little too far gone.  I have used their shocks on a couple of other projects, there is s set on my CB750k.   Excellent quality, priced right, and even though they have to come across the pond, shipping is really quick.  I have the 37 loose ball bearings back in the steering head,  (use a 5 gallon bucket hung over the stem coming and going and it will save you chasing the little buggers all over the garage floor), hopefully we will have a roller soon.


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Re: Another CL77
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2024, 06:21:43 PM »
I went with JBS aftermarket shocks out of Australia due to the fact my stock set was really a little too far gone.  I have used their shocks on a couple of other projects, there is s set on my CB750k.   Excellent quality, priced right, and even though they have to come across the pond, shipping is really quick.  I have the 37 loose ball bearings back in the steering head,  (use a 5 gallon bucket hung over the stem coming and going and it will save you chasing the little buggers all over the garage floor), hopefully we will have a roller soon.

I like the bucket idea!

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Re: Another CL77
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2024, 10:31:18 AM »
One CL77 seat covered with a cheapo Ebay cover.  I should have spent more time on the foam, there were two pretty good ass cheek indentations that I thought I had rectified, still have some show through. I may re-do it in the winter with a better quality cover and foam, but right now I am running with it.  I used liquid electrical tape on the seat strap and trim piece screws under the seat to prevent them from backing off.  I am finding the stuff has a lot of uses........




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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2024, 11:00:20 AM »
That certainly looks good!

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« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2024, 11:14:35 AM »
One CL77 seat covered with a cheapo Ebay cover.  I should have spent more time on the foam, there were two pretty good ass cheek indentations that I thought I had rectified, still have some show through. I may re-do it in the winter with a better quality cover and foam, but right now I am running with it.  I used liquid electrical tape on the seat strap and trim piece screws under the seat to prevent them from backing off.  I am finding the stuff has a lot of uses........

you do good work  :D
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Re: Another CL77
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2024, 11:15:04 AM »
Looking good britman!

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Re: Another CL77
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2024, 03:05:13 PM »
Half of a roller.  I have a seven piece patio set I have to assemble before I can get back to it.  Lord help me......


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Re: Another CL77
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2024, 12:03:08 PM »
Full Roller......Pushing the limit on the rear tire size=but happy with the results.......



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« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2024, 03:45:08 PM »
Looks very smart!

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Re: Another CL77
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2024, 12:14:56 PM »
I have been exceptionally good lately, therefore, I am counting on several hairy footed little "Garage Gnomes" to show up in the dead of the night and put this thing back together.......Motor is detailed, so I have done the hard part.....