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Offline Vintageguy

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Shifter Cover Install Procedure
« on: April 28, 2024, 06:42:47 AM »
I know this is crazy, but can't get the shifter cover on to my 1978 750F. I have filed it to fit as much as I dare, and still have about 1/8 of an inch to go to bottom out. I just do not understand this. Can anyone please provide me with the proper install steps. Thanks.

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Re: Shifter Cover Install Procedure
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2024, 07:47:35 AM »
Have you by any chance a dowel in the cover AND a dowel in the casig?
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Re: Shifter Cover Install Procedure
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2024, 07:50:27 AM »
Does the dowel fit easily in both sides?
If you have a spare dowel you can check the empty side.
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Re: Shifter Cover Install Procedure
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2024, 08:17:29 AM »
There is a dowel in the case AND a dowel in the shifter body. Yes.

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Re: Shifter Cover Install Procedure
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2024, 08:54:44 AM »
Are the dowels absolutely necessary, and are they removeable? Are they supposed to be in the case, or the cover? Thank you.

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Re: Shifter Cover Install Procedure
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2024, 08:55:48 AM »
There is a dowel in the case AND a dowel in the shifter body. Yes.
Hopefully in different holes
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New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
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Re: Shifter Cover Install Procedure
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2024, 09:56:51 AM »
where are the dowels supposed to be?

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Re: Shifter Cover Install Procedure
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2024, 10:45:30 AM »
Old dowels often in need of grinding off dirt and marks, grit 400 paper. If oval shape, replace it. I ordered several dovels years ago.
This dovel same size as under cam towers.

Cover hole can have marks so dovel will not fit.
Aftermarket gasket usually fit bad.
Some holes need to be widened 
with a sharp knife since hole pattern is wrong.

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Re: Shifter Cover Install Procedure
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2024, 12:24:51 PM »
You should have only one dowel per hole;the problem may be if a 2nd one was already jambed in there and it creates a gap,it can cause sealing issues on the gasket surfaces.
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Re: Shifter Cover Install Procedure
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2024, 02:34:06 AM »
where are the dowels supposed to be?
Wherever dowels are used, there will be bigger diameter bore for the dowels to fit in, matching holes in the engine case. It's not rocket science. Look closely at the holes for the difference.
As per said, check the condition of the dowels that they are round and not out of shape, dinged, rusted. Clean up the dowels or replace them as needed. The dowels are wear items to replace as needed. They are to locate the gasket in the proper position.
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My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Shifter Cover Install Procedure
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2024, 04:38:36 AM »
This cover does not seem to fit, irrespective of dowels. It won't fit on, even with the dowels removed. I'm quite certain that the stator housing I purchased is the correct one, and the shifter cover has been on for 46 years. I have been riding and working on bikes for 55 years. I'm totally confused as to why the cover will not fit on. FRUSTRATED.

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Re: Shifter Cover Install Procedure
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2024, 05:33:32 AM »
Check the wire that goes down to the neutral light switch.  It's crammed into an impossibly narrow gap between the stator and shift covers, and is very easy to pinch.  I struggled with that for quite a bit before I got my covers to lie flat.
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Re: Shifter Cover Install Procedure
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2024, 01:01:19 PM »
Did someone fit washers behind the stator? That would cause the stator to be the thickness of the washer out of place and that could cause your problem...
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Re: Shifter Cover Install Procedure
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2024, 01:43:48 PM »
This cover does not seem to fit, irrespective of dowels. It won't fit on, even with the dowels removed.

I'm quite certain that the stator housing I purchased is the correct one, and the shifter cover has been on for 46 years.


I have been riding and working on bikes for 55 years. I'm totally confused as to why the cover will not fit on. FRUSTRATED.

So you say the shifter cover has been on for 46 years yet it doesn't fit now?? I'm confused.......
Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Shifter Cover Install Procedure
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2024, 02:01:59 PM »
I do know there is a trick to getting the cover on the '78 K.  Maybe that is what he is running into.

Has to be installed at a certain angle.

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Re: Shifter Cover Install Procedure
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2024, 05:23:04 PM »
I do know there is a trick to getting the cover on the '78 K.  Maybe that is what he is running into.

Has to be installed at a certain angle.

The sprocket cover requires a "twist of the wrist", while the shifter (transmission) cover is a straightforward install. Did you remove/reinstall any shifter components that may now be interfering? Some pictures might help.
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