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https://www.amazon.co.uk/INLIMA-35-75mm-Motorcycle-Connecting-Crankshaft/dp/B0C9JVJ6QZ

May have been discussed already as I don't visit here too often.

« Last Edit: May 19, 2024, 02:14:52 AM by AshimotoK0 »
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Re: What's this all about then ???
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2024, 07:51:27 AM »
Doesn't say what year or if it's SOHC or DOHC
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Re: What's this all about then ???
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2024, 08:48:51 AM »
I have seen sets of cheap crankshaft shells very cheap on ebay, 10 pack.
Dohc or sohc same same
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Re: What's this all about then ???
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2024, 10:00:06 AM »
They list undersize so can crank be reground?
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Re: What's this all about then ???
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2024, 12:53:15 PM »
 I also noticed that the DOHC lists more colors of stock bearings, I'm pretty sure there is a blue one.
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Re: What's this all about then ???
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2024, 02:41:10 PM »
Tried googling "INLIMA" (brand stated) and got nothing.

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Re: What's this all about then ???
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2024, 04:07:29 PM »
I would not risk an Sohc four crankshaft to unknown bearings.
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Re: What's this all about then ???
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2024, 04:56:07 PM »
I would not risk an Sohc four crankshaft to unknown bearings.


I agree but interesting that someone other than Daido would tool up to make shell bearings for a model 40 years out of production. People fit cheapo Cruzinimage pistons and rings,  so who can say that these are rubbish. Who is going to be the guinea pig though? 
In the 1990's I designed a solenoid switch when I worked for Fenner (now SPX) fluid power based in Rockford Il. that we had made in Shanghai.. I chose some expensive precious metal contact tips made in France but the boss man found some at a  fraction of the price of Chinese domestic manufacture. I poo poo'd the idea of using them but the boss told me to make ten samples up using them and test them to destruction ... amazingly they passed all of the qualification tests.

I have often wondered if Daido would sell these shells direct as they are still in business supplying Honda etc.
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Re: What's this all about then ???
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2024, 05:11:41 PM »
Curious: are oen bearings made of aluminum? Most plain bearings are a Babbit alloy. Usually tin/lead/copper.

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Re: What's this all about then ???
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2024, 05:20:41 PM »
The OEM bearings were (and still seem to be in the ones I've bought in the last year) Babbit alloy, both for the SOHC 750 and 550 I just rebuilt.
These bearings originally came from a Mitsubishi engine (rumored to be in a forklift engine made back when), Honda didn't invent them, nor their sizes. Honda made their cranks to fit commercially-made bearings, both the needle, roller (like CB450) and SOHC4 plain types - circa 1960s!

My local machine shop said they could probably find some bearings for these cranks even if Honda quit supplying them: they said they appear to be a common size, whatever that means? Someday I'd like to investigate that.
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Re: What's this all about then ???
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2024, 06:53:17 PM »
Good to know.
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Re: What's this all about then ???
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2024, 07:11:43 PM »
https://www.amazon.co.uk/INLIMA-35-75mm-Motorcycle-Connecting-Crankshaft/dp/B0C9JVJ6QZ

May have been discussed already as I don't visit here too often.

Ash,I'm curious where the bearings "INLIMA" are manufactured.
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Re: What's this all about then ???
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2024, 12:23:35 AM »
I put the name into amazon search and lots of parts came up
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It would be interesting to know the evolution of the adoption of Cruzin pistons/rings by the folks on here (and other Honda circles).
Somebody must have tested and vetted them for them to be taken up as being OK to use on our engines. (personally I have always fitted genuine Honda /Riken/ART parts to my bikes).
I was told that the Cruzin rings were made by Riken but I have never seen this claim substantiated for the range of parts that they sell. It was always the fact that their rubber engine parts they sell got a really bad press that I voted with my feet on their other stuff.

It would be interesting to know who actually manufactures the bearing shells. After all there are lots of Chinese manufactured cars sold here in the UK  (e.g. MG) that seems to be getting a good reputation and of course will have plain bearing cranks needing decent quality bearing shells.
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Good to see you here  :)

Good to be back ... not that I have ever been away ...just mainly posting on the UK site.
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Fairly sure I saw Mike Nixon saying that Cruzinimage rings are not very good. If they were Riken why not just leave them in the Riken boxes?

As for the shells, I'll stay with the genuine Daido ones thanks. Oh and I've stopped collecting the shells Ash, they were becoming harder and harder to source and more and more expensive to buy when you could locate them, having around 200 500/550/650 shells at the moment I think I've got enough to be going on with  ;D ;D In fact I may start selling some later this year.

I read the posts on the UK forum, Steve can't stop me doing that, the 500s coming along nicely and I may pop down to Crich this year and say hello to the lads. Tell them the truth of what really happened.

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I read the posts on the UK forum, Steve can't stop me doing that, the 500s coming along nicely and I may pop down to Crich this year and say hello to the lads. Tell them the truth of what really happened.

One things for sure Ken, I for one really miss you on that UK forum ...it's certainly not the same without your input. On a lighter note ..just got back recently from Tenerife and met these two lovely Manchunian lasses ..one came out with  "It's better here now ... you don't get 'mithered' all of the time" ..just reminded me of you using that word ! I will give you a call sometime if that's OK with you .... pretty sure I have your number.
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Anyone noticed that on the 1968 Prototype that Vic World just restored ..it has smaller dia. con-rod bearings. I guess the crank grind pre-dates the arrival of the Swiss made crank grinder machine that they used in production.
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One things for sure Ken, I for one really miss you on that UK forum ...it's certainly not the same without your input. On a lighter note ..just got back recently from Tenerife and met these two lovely Manchunian lasses ..one came out with  "It's better here now ... you don't get 'mithered' all of the time" ..just reminded me of you using that word ! I will give you a call sometime if that's OK with you .... pretty sure I have your number.

"Mithered" proper North West of England word, means to bother someone to death for our US cousins in case they were curious.

Not missing the forum really Ash, gives me far more freetime to spend on the resto, going to submit the bike to a magazine to see if they are interested in doing a feature on the rebuild, the bike has numerous modifications to make it a better bike, some of which would be of interest to other members, I'm working on the hydraulic clutch mod on the 500 ATM, ceramic coating the engine, the frames finally powder coated, ready to start assembling it as soon as I rust proof the inside of the frame members.

Sure give me a ring anytime.

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......., ready to start assembling it as soon as I rust proof the inside of the frame members. .....

That's not something I've seen discussed for motorbikes, but seems a good idea (especially if riding through the year, in the UK). How do you go about it?

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......., ready to start assembling it as soon as I rust proof the inside of the frame members. .....

That's not something
 I've seen discussed for motorbikes, but seems a good idea (especially if riding through the year, in the UK). How do you go about it?

I believe Vic World does (did) this on his sandcast restorations.
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It's not really radical or anything. Pretty simple really.

Way back in the 70-80s I noticed that most of the chrome parts on my 500 were suffering from rust in places not generally cleaned regularly, undersides of mudguards, reverse side of fork ears, inside of the headlight rim are good examples. Of course I live in a damp climate but I'm sure parts of the USA are the same, if not damp then humid for example. So I started to try and prevent this and found zinc paint was really good at stopping the rust. Even when scratched etc it still worked. I had mudguards which were still rust free 30-40 years on, same for fork ears. The trick is to ensure good coverage so I prefer brush on zinc paint, I used Isopon Zinc 182, not sure if that's available over there but if not something similar should also work as well.

To do the frame I use the welding holes Honda drilled into the frame, I use a chicken marinator to inject the paint into the frame, I fill the tube up entirely and then allow it to drain out into a suitable container so I can reuse the paint again and again. Takes a while to do a whole frame but it does work. I also do what I call flood painting on the rear mudguard brace, just flood paint under the brace after taping the exit shut. As soon as it's full you can then move on to another section, the idea is to stop water from ever gaining access, if it's full of paint it can't, that's my reasoning, same for the triangle braces on the outside, tip the guard upside down and flood those holes between the blade and the brace, once it's fitted you can barely see the paint, I tend to cover them with spray satin black paint.

Is it OTT, well yeah but the benefits probably won't be seen in my lifetime so my son who will inherit the bike will certainly benefit, plus the cost of replacing these parts more than compensates for the time and effort involved in doing this. I do this on all parts of the bike where you regularly see rust forming, parts that tend not to get cleaned or paid attention to, the inside of the bracing for the rear brake torque arm on the bottom of the swinging arm for example. Just food for thought, you don't have to do this.

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The CruzinImage rings in the CB750, CB500, CB550, CB350F and CB400F have changed several times in the last 18 years I've been using them. Some are/were good, some just generic versions. I have also received kits from time to time with Riken rings in them(!), so I suppose they use what they can get? During the Covid nonsense they started using the ones I've seen since then, which have a top-side marking and are a chrome top ring and [what appears to be] iron 2nd ring. The piston groove measurements match the OEM pistons, so Honda's own rings can be used, too. I use either Riken or MC rings with these pistons, for the most part.
See SOHC4shop@gmail.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

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The CruzinImage rings in the CB750, CB500, CB550, CB350F and CB400F have changed several times in the last 18 years I've been using them. Some are/were good, some just generic versions. I have also received kits from time to time with Riken rings in them(!), so I suppose they use what they can get? During the Covid nonsense they started using the ones I've seen since then, which have a top-side marking and are a chrome top ring and [what appears to be] iron 2nd ring. The piston groove measurements match the OEM pistons, so Honda's own rings can be used, too. I use either Riken or MC rings with these pistons, for the most part.

Where can I source "MC rings" ?
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