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Offline toglhot

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Clutch slave number two.
« on: March 26, 2024, 10:52:46 PM »
Previously I made a clutch slave with a 25mm piston. I bought a 9.5mm master cylinder and hooked it up. No go, the master only moved the slave piston a little under 1mm, not enough to separate the plates, so, back on the lathe.

I had a couple of 20mm hydraulic ram seals so turned up a slave from 6061, recessed the top to take the seal and turned up a 20mm stainless piston.

The slave sits inside the cover near the sprocket and chain, so, its a rather dirty environment. There was imsuficient space to add a dust seal. Instead I turned up a 3mm cover which also doubles as a seal stopper, stopping the seal from popping out.
To mount the slave I shaved 3mm off the side to miss the wall separating the area from the alternator. Then mounted the cover on the mill and bored the mounting hole out from 26 to 29mm, making a neat fit for the slave. To hold the slave in place, I drilled the M5 threaded holes through and recessed the outside of the cover to fit the Allen heads.

Hooked up the master to test it out and discovered the piston had jammed. I managed to get it apart only to find the seals had expanded, now too big for the bore. The add for the master said it was mineral oil friendly, so taking the sellers word, that's what I used. As we all know, introduce petrolium based products to brake seals and they expand, so the ad was obviously wrong, the slave is brake fluid friendly.

I can't get any seals for this master, so it went in the useless parts drawer and I set about modifying the cover to take the original screw type actuator again. Two stainless T nuts were turned up to fit in the 6mm hole, threaded internally M5 and then pressed into place. A Delrin ring 26mm ID, 29mm OD was then turned up and pressed over the screw actuator and the lot assembled.

To ease the clutch pull for my fused arthritic fingers I made an extended lever for an old actuator by 5mm, turned up a seal keeper and welded everything together. So, back to cable operation.

If I ever manage to find seals for the master I simply have to press the stainless T nut out of the case and install the 20mm slave.
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Re: Clutch slave number to.
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2024, 12:06:40 AM »
So what is this going on??
Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
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Re: Clutch slave number two.
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2024, 12:28:51 AM »
74 XS650

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Re: Clutch slave number two.
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2024, 11:52:10 PM »
That is some very nice custom work! This slave cylinder translates the in and out to a rotating function due to the threading on the arm and atop the slave cylinder end from the original slave cylinder? Do I understand this correctly? I take it the XS650 doesn't have replacements available or you enjoy engineering your own custom solutions?

Nice looking bike.
See several guys that were fans of the XS650 also leaned towards the Triumphs too...must be the love of those cases as aesthetically pleasing shapes...
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Re: Clutch slave number two.
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2024, 01:00:34 AM »
There was no original slave cylinder, the clutch was operated by a course, plastic threaded piece in the cover, as the piece was rotated via a cable the piece forced the clutch pushrod in, thus separating the plates.

Parts for the XS650 are readily available,I just enjoy designing and making bits.