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Offline goosegoose

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Undoing a straight pipe ‘74 cb350f
« on: May 26, 2024, 03:31:42 PM »
Just bought a 74 cb350f and the PO removed the baffles to straight pipe it. The exhaust is a 4into2. I’m looking for advice from anyone who has ever fixed this problem. Do I just buy a set of 2in diameter baffles and pack them with fiberglass cloth? If so, should I try to get long ones since my goal is to quiet it down? This is my first time messing with an exhaust so I could use any help I get. Trying to go this route before I spend $400 on an aftermarket 4 into 1. Thanks!

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Re: Undoing a straight pipe ‘74 cb350f
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2024, 10:56:29 AM »
 I have added packed baffles to a straight pipe, it worked great. Finding the right size is the trick. Longer is better for sound.
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Re: Undoing a straight pipe ‘74 cb350f
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2024, 11:16:22 AM »
I've gone a step further to improve the low-end power in the bike: before wrapping the baffle, I added a flat disc (or a large washer of teh right diameter but with a tiny center hole) into the middle of the baffle. This I did by slicing open the baffle, inserting the washer, then [having it] welded it shut again. Then when wrapping the fiberglass on it, I left this section open so the exhaust would exit the baffle, then re-enter it, to get around the washer.

This was done originally because the locals gendarmes used to stick a 3-foot-long wood dowel up a bike's pipes if they stopped someone for a too-loud exhaust pipe(s) in town. It 'stopped the stick' and saved a ticket. It wasn't until we had done several of these that we realized it was also improving low-end torque. This practice started with straight-piped HD bikes and became part of the 2- and 4-cylinder bikes passing thru my shop after that 'discovery'.

...then I got an aircraft engine designer's book, which spent 3 exhaustive (sic) chapters on exhaust designs, written by the Brit who designed the legendary Merlin engines of WWII. That was (and still is) one of the most illuminating technical books I have ever seen! It is because of that experience that I seem to be in the minority when it comes to the question of "how to increase power with my pipes..." - I always have ideas quite different from others, most of them also proven to work. ;)
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Re: Undoing a straight pipe ‘74 cb350f
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2024, 12:54:18 PM »
I have added packed baffles to a straight pipe, it worked great. Finding the right size is the trick. Longer is better for sound.

When you say better for sound, what exactly do you mean? Is having a longer baffle better for quieting the sound or are you saying that it just makes it sound more pleasant?

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Re: Undoing a straight pipe ‘74 cb350f
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2024, 07:36:13 AM »
There are a lot of options on eBay.  Generally speaking, the longer the baffle, the more it will reduce sound.

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Re: Undoing a straight pipe ‘74 cb350f
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2024, 07:53:55 AM »
I always get a kick out of guys in both cars and on their motorcycles that rip out their baffles or just cut off the silencers to make their engines "more powerful"
On the cars, it just sounds dumb, especially the V-6 Tacoma trucks. A V-6 does not have the pleasant exhaust tone that a straight 6 or a V-8 have.
On the bikes, it's just loud, and doesn't really contribute any usable power truth be known.

I guess its a reaction to testosterone levels.
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Re: Undoing a straight pipe ‘74 cb350f
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2024, 03:26:43 PM »
Thanks for all of your replies! I bought 2 10in baffles wrapped in fiberglass. It has DRASTICALLY reduced the sound.

I now have a new issue - now it has a bad bog. It will idle OK and rev in neutral, but it will die when I try to get it moving under load.

My first thoughts are that maybe the PO had changed the jets or the valve clearances when he straight piped it. Any ideas?

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Re: Undoing a straight pipe ‘74 cb350f
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2024, 02:14:32 AM »
Maybe the PO raised the carb needles? The valve clearances aren't involved in mixture tuning..
You'll have to look inside the carbs to find out.
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Re: Undoing a straight pipe ‘74 cb350f
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2024, 07:01:10 AM »
Ahhh, home made baffles don't ya just love em? I got a 350F as a project 5 years ago. the seller had trouble starting it to show me, I told him don't worry as I was going to pull it to bits anyway. Discovered it had a heap of money spent on it not long before - Dyna ignition and coils, carby kits, service. But obviously to no avail.
It had a 4 into 1,with a short connector pipe to a pretty rubbish muffler. Anyway - pulled it off and this connector pipe was stuffed with chicken fencing wire which had subsequently trapped every bit of carbon that left the engine. It pretty much choked the engine big time. Happy to get the ignition system!!
Bike is all finished now and runs just fine thanks.

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Re: Undoing a straight pipe ‘74 cb350f
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2024, 07:54:54 AM »
Photos of the bike? Always love to see the little fours.
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Re: Undoing a straight pipe ‘74 cb350f
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2024, 01:18:33 AM »
I've had 2 goes at loading photos. I'll try later see if it works.

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Re: Undoing a straight pipe ‘74 cb350f
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2024, 01:20:29 AM »
Maybe one photo at a time

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Re: Undoing a straight pipe ‘74 cb350f
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2024, 01:22:54 AM »
And before, you can see the connecting bit between muffler and headers

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Re: Undoing a straight pipe ‘74 cb350f
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2024, 08:30:03 PM »
What a beautiful Baby Four!
Someday I hope to get to work on mine, too.
I always end up working on someone else's instead. :(
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