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Offline zabzob

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Bike stops dead electrical problem
« on: July 04, 2024, 12:20:52 pm »
Electrical problem! Fun.

My bike occasionally stops dead while I'm riding it. No power to lights or anything. I have figured out that the issue is in the wiring under the left side panel. I have a solid state reg/rec, and have replaced the fuses with blade type in a four slot holder. When it stops, I push it to the side of the road, jiggle things under there, and the lights come back and I'm good to go.

I will obviously have to check it all, but there are only so many connections that could make me lose all power. Reg/rec for instance would just be a charging problem, verified by disconnecting it and still seeing lights on. I'll check the fuse connections and related wiring. Anything else to check specifically?

1975 CB750K btw. Thanks all!
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Re: Bike stops dead electrical problem
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2024, 12:48:09 pm »
That has to be a main power connection loose at battery, solenoid or red wires at fuse box
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Re: Bike stops dead electrical problem
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2024, 12:49:38 pm »
You are looking for a problem on the red wire that runs from the battery + connection at the starter solenoid to the 15 amp main fuse, then from the fuse to the ignition switch.
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Re: Bike stops dead electrical problem
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2024, 02:00:17 pm »
Wouldn’t you hear arcing with loose connections? Overheating will give you similar symptoms. While you’re at it, maybe check your plugs


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Re: Bike stops dead electrical problem
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2024, 02:51:14 pm »
If you don't find anything there, I had a similar experience,  traced to a faulty contact on my ignition switch (back of the key switch).

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Re: Bike stops dead electrical problem
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2024, 02:59:24 pm »
If you don't find anything there, I had a similar experience,  traced to a faulty contact on my ignition switch (back of the key switch).

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Re: Bike stops dead electrical problem
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2024, 04:35:15 pm »
If you don't find anything there, I had a similar experience,  traced to a faulty contact on my ignition switch (back of the key switch).

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Re: Bike stops dead electrical problem
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2024, 05:03:32 pm »
I have figured out that the issue is in the wiring under the left side panel.    When it stops, I push it to the side of the road, jiggle things under there, and the lights come back and I'm good to go.

This sort of rules out the ignition switch. ;)
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Re: Bike stops dead electrical problem
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2024, 07:39:51 pm »
I have figured out that the issue is in the wiring under the left side panel.    When it stops, I push it to the side of the road, jiggle things under there, and the lights come back and I'm good to go.

This sort of rules out the ignition switch. ;)

Depends on how enthusiastic the "jiggling" is...  ;D

My electrical troubleshooting regimen often involves figuring out what it's not, then moving to the next component. Intermittent issues can be maddening.
« Last Edit: July 04, 2024, 07:43:12 pm by madmtnmotors »
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http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,139544.msg1579364.html#msg1579364
                                          
Charging system diagnosis: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=1012.msg8345#msg8345
Get the manuals: http://manuals.sohc4.net/cb750k/
The Dragon: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=45183.msg1571675#msg1571675
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Re: Bike stops dead electrical problem
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2024, 12:48:50 pm »
Thanks all.

I put it on the center stand, vigorously jiggled the wires and couldn't reproduce the problem. I unplugged things from the harness until it was clear what could possibly be the issue and what was just charging/accessories. I pulled the blade connectors off the fuse box for the main 15A fuse and pinched them down a bit so it would be a tighter contact. Check the wires from the + terminal and all seems okay. I took it out for a good long ride and didn't have any issues. I think it's going to be a case of rebuilding confidence in the bike for the next few weeks...
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Re: Bike stops dead electrical problem
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2024, 01:03:24 am »
Yes, but ride in defensive mode for the next period of time. I've learned that a sudden death, either electric or - like in my case - a hampered fuel flow, can turn into a matter of life and death when overtaking a car on a mountain road with uncomers...
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