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Can you recommend a site to give specs/measurements for different brand and size drive chains ?
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See if this is what you’re looking for…

Go down to the chart that shows all the chains’ specs..

https://rkexcelamerica.com/products/rk-chains/

Check chains with ISO 10190 ratings “motorcycle chain” RK and Regina are for sure..

Don’t confuse ISO 606 rated chain “industrial chain” with motorcycle chain…

« Last Edit: July 05, 2024, 06:36:22 AM by Tracksnblades1 »
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ISO 10190 for motorcycle chain,ok.
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I called a few motorcycle parts places(nationwide parts houses)and they couldn't give me specs on the width/pin length of other drive chains except EK from a small distributor;then Dennis Kirk,no.  ::)
I see the RK chart from 'Tracksnblades1' which gives me some information..
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Are you worried about an o-ring chain rubbing and just doing your due diligence beforehand?

They have a new skinny oring offering for old bikes but I’ve never used it..I’ve always ran a RK regular (wide) oring chain with no problems with a 17 or mostly a 18 tooth front sprocket..76F1 though I know the same works on a 75k with a 16 on front..
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Are you worried about an o-ring chain rubbing and just doing your due diligence beforehand?

They have a new skinny oring offering for old bikes but I’ve never used it..I’ve always ran a RK regular (wide) oring chain with no problems with a 17 or mostly a 18 tooth front sprocket..76F1 though I know the same works on a 75k with a 16 on front..

Do you know the brand for the skinny o-ring chain ?  RK?  :)
I like 70's,80's vintage bikes and O-ring chains & would rather be safe than sorry  ;)
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Yes it’s on the chart..
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I like the specs on that RK 530uwr
At 22.7mm outside the pins that is 3mm thinner than the regular oring RK chain I have now(not running a chain guard because it rubbed)

https://www.cspracing.com/rk-chain-sv530uwr-100/rkc-sv530uwr-100/
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1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
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2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
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I also like that UWR   ;)
« Last Edit: July 06, 2024, 09:38:30 PM by grcamna2 »
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https://www.ibtinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Diamond-PowerSports.pdf 

Maybe this has some info that you want for Diamond chain
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Looks like the XLO’s are the only diamond chains that are even close to the RK’s skinny chain’s tensile strength.

If you’re going to run a standard width 530 oring might as well get the 11,200# tensile strength RK…
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Looks like the XLO’s are the only diamond chains that are even close to the RK’s skinny chain’s tensile strength.

If you’re going to run a standard width 530 oring might as well get the 11,200# tensile strength RK…

The 520XRE is what I would buy for my 2023 CB500X. Would measure the stock chain width first.

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Looks like the XLO’s are the only diamond chains that are even close to the RK’s skinny chain’s tensile strength.

If you’re going to run a standard width 530 oring might as well get the 11,200# tensile strength RK…

The 520XRE is what I would buy for my 2023 CB500X. Would measure the stock chain width first.

I want to stay with a 530 chain.
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Looks like the XLO’s are the only diamond chains that are even close to the RK’s skinny chain’s tensile strength.

If you’re going to run a standard width 530 oring might as well get the 11,200# tensile strength RK…

The 520XRE is what I would buy for my 2023 CB500X. Would measure the stock chain width first.

I want to stay with a 530 chain.

I do not doubt that, my CB500X came with a 520. But a good 520 is plenty strong enough for most of the SOHC users here. When I end up needing a chain on my K2 I am thinking to use a good quality 520.

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Looks like the XLO’s are the only diamond chains that are even close to the RK’s skinny chain’s tensile strength.

If you’re going to run a standard width 530 oring might as well get the 11,200# tensile strength RK…

The 520XRE is what I would buy for my 2023 CB500X. Would measure the stock chain width first.

I want to stay with a 530 chain.

I do not doubt that, my CB500X came with a 520. But a good 520 is plenty strong enough for most of the SOHC users here. When I end up needing a chain on my K2 I am thinking to use a good quality 520.

Bill

I understand.
I like to keep my same 530 size sprockets;more choices when I look for a deal.
I was considering trying to run a 520 O-ring chain on 530 sprockets,but the sprockets are too wide.
Do you know of a place I can go to machine-down/surface grind my two sprockets to match the width of a 520 chain ?  I'd like to own a surface grinder:use to operate one.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2024, 10:35:38 AM by grcamna2 »
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Looks like the XLO’s are the only diamond chains that are even close to the RK’s skinny chain’s tensile strength.

If you’re going to run a standard width 530 oring might as well get the 11,200# tensile strength RK…

The 520XRE is what I would buy for my 2023 CB500X. Would measure the stock chain width first.

I want to stay with a 530 chain.

I do not doubt that, my CB500X came with a 520. But a good 520 is plenty strong enough for most of the SOHC users here. When I end up needing a chain on my K2 I am thinking to use a good quality 520.

Bill

I understand.
I like to keep my same 530 size sprockets;more choices when I look for a deal.
I was considering trying to run a 520 O-ring chain on 530 sprockets,but the sprockets are too wide.
Do you know of a place I can go to machine-down/surface grind my two sprockets to match the width of a 520 chain ?  I'd like to own a surface grinder:use to operate one.

If you know someone with a lathe, modern tool bits or inserts will trim them down to size in a hurry..
I would take the same off of both sides of the front and rear sprockets where the teeth are to maintain the same chain center line, while leaving the OEM sprocket thicknesses alone at the rear wheel and the front’s splined retainer area.
You may look into retempering the teeth area if you think the turning removed it..
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But aren't the teeth a different space too?
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My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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But aren't the teeth a different space too?

Both 530 & 520 are 5/8” pitch chain. The 530 is the wider one. The 520 is the narrow one that’s  been used on dirt bikes forever.  Some 520 chains today are rated for 200hp.. They’ll last near forever on a 50hp dirt bike..

I think he’s wants to run a full oring chain on his bike. He’s looking for a narrower chain so he can but his chain guard back on. I mentioned tuning both sides so he doesn’t upset Honda’s original chain alignment or center line.. by turning both sides he’ll get a little more clearance on both sides compared to his 530.. more clearance for his chain guard on the outside and more clearance for his tire on the inside and chain guard if applicable on his bike..
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I like the looks of that RK 530UWR very much.
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https://www.ibtinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Diamond-PowerSports.pdf 

Maybe this has some info that you want for Diamond chain

Kevin,the small numbers on that chart are too blurry to read.
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Sorry pal, maybe these 400kb screenshots will help.
The pdf looks like it’s 8 years old. I had a helluva time finding it.
And maybe doesn’t represent the Diamond product of today:

Looks like Diamond was purchased by Timken in 2019 and production moved
from Indianapolis to Fulton, Illinois and Weifang, China.

WTH is this BS? Diamond chain from China not Indianapolis

« Last Edit: July 08, 2024, 09:06:54 PM by Kevin D »
71 CB750 K1
104,000 miles
Original Owner
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70 SL100/125/150
70 Candy BlueGreen CB 750 K0
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Thanks,now it's very clear.
I'm shocked;Diamond of Indianapolis closed down,no more USA made blue side plates  :(
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Thanks,now it's very clear.
I'm shocked;Diamond of Indianapolis closed down,no more USA made blue side plates  :(

One article said Timken was moving production to IL ?? An article said that the Indy plant was built on top of a cemetery used to bury Confederate POW during the Civil war.

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I have the box from my own Diamond chain, this is its third season.
There is an American flag on the box and it’s marked Indianapolis.

I browsed around the Timken/Diamond website an bit and couldn’t find any sections for PowerSports chains, mainly industrial applications. I did see a section on XLO and duralube chains. This website wants you to make an account to dive into its site more deeply, and I did see J & P cycles, Tucker/Rocky as distributors.
71 CB750 K1
104,000 miles
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70 SL100/125/150
70 Candy BlueGreen CB 750 K0
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I see. I hear that Duralube is an excellent chain w/ long life.
I like the NOS Diamond standard chain very much as the side plates are quite narrow and fit many different applications.
I've never installed a Diamond O-ring chain yet.
75' CB400F/'bunch o' parts' & 81' CB125S modded to a 'CB200S'
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I see. I hear that Duralube is an excellent chain w/ long life.
I like the NOS Diamond standard chain very much as the side plates are quite narrow and fit many different applications.
I've never installed a Diamond O-ring chain yet.

We used their product exclusively at work, kinda sucks.

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I was reading on another forum about a dirt-bike guy(old post)running a narrow x-ring chain.
He said it "pogo-jumped" ??  I'm just going to guess he meant in the chain slack?
The guy wrote that he 'fixed it' by using a hacksaw to cut-out & removed all the x-rings in the chain,then it was 'fine'??  weird  ::)
The rubber rings had become packed w/ dirt??
« Last Edit: July 13, 2024, 07:51:40 AM by grcamna2 »
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I just installed a 530 o-ring chain on the cb750. Haven't run it yet.

Was way to long, had to cut out abut 12 links.
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I just installed a 530 o-ring chain on the cb750. Haven't run it yet.

Was way to long, had to cut out abut 12 links.

Which brand/style O-ring chain did you install ?
75' CB400F/'bunch o' parts' & 81' CB125S modded to a 'CB200S'
  I love the small ones too !
Do your BEST...nobody can take that away from you.