Topic: Seeking opinions on baking paint on cases?

[slyguy]

I’ll be using the duplicolor de1615 spray paint & thinking of using our kitchen oven to bake once my wife is not around haha. Should I? If so, what temp & duration for each case halve? Tia👍

[HondaMan]

The engine itself does a pretty good job of cooking on that paint: I use it a lot. Use the engine Primer (in grey) underneath it. I use 2 lights coats of the primer, then one finishing (heavier coat) spaced 10-15 minutes between coats. Then before the first 1615 coat I wait 20 minutes. Then i use 2 thin coats of it with a heavier finishing coat, just like the primer. It will dry hard after 2-4 days (depending on humidity) so it handles pretty well.

[RAFster122s]

Unless you want to buy your wife a new oven , then you better skip the idea of using the oven while she is gone. It will smell up the house for a long time and the oven will be giving an unhealthy flavor to everything that is baked in it for weeks if not longer...
Go price ovens and you will quickly rethink that strategy.

If you are heartset on baking it, with go find a used appliance shop or see if the local powder coats would consider baking it for you for a reasonable price...

[PeWe]

I used a heat gun on my last case paint.
Rattle can, Motip engine paint, aluminium.

To speed up the process I used a heat gun after paint, blowing from inside until case became rather warm.

[BenelliSEI]

I use the same paint all the time. It will bake nicely on first start up and drys hard enough to handle 3-4 days. Don’t stink up the house.

[slyguy]

Ok guys, Super! I guess I’ll scrap the baking idea:)

[Don R]

 Baking during the run-in works unless the carbs leak all over and melt your new paint. A friend told me. Yeah, that's it a friend. It wasn't me, it was another big dummy.

[newday777]

I seem to remember seeing a video of Allen Millyard's, using a gas barbecue grille to bake his cases outside to limit smell in the house (getting his wife into a tether, as she bakes him lots of muffins). You can usually find a used grille fairly cheap (to nothing)

VHT's recommended way on their high heat engine paint is bake at 200° for 20 minutes to get the protective properties.

Here's an old thread on baking cases from 2013

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=120909.0

[grcamna2]

I seem to remember seeing a video of Allen Millyard's, using a gas barbecue grille to bake his cases outside to limit smell in the house (getting his wife into a tether, as she bakes him lots of muffins). You can usually find a used grille fairly cheap (to nothing)

VHT's recommended way on their high heat engine paint is bake at 200° for 20 minutes to get the protective properties.

Here's an old thread on baking cases from 2013

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=120909.0

I sometimes use the VHT Caliper paint on parts that get hot or have mild contact with fuel,etc.
That VHT caliper paint is a durable product and they recommend 200 degrees for 1 hr.
I use the oven in my electric stove in my apt. as I live alone & don't use the oven to cook;I use a fan to pull air through the apt. from one window to the other when i do this.

[willbird]

I seem to remember seeing a video of Allen Millyard's, using a gas barbecue grille to bake his cases outside to limit smell in the house (getting his wife into a tether, as she bakes him lots of muffins). You can usually find a used grille fairly cheap (to nothing)

VHT's recommended way on their high heat engine paint is bake at 200° for 20 minutes to get the protective properties.

Here's an old thread on baking cases from 2013

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=120909.0

I honestly had thought about baking the engine myself. A couple bakes and solvent cleaning might get the last oily "stuff" out of any cracks and crevices too.

Bill

[slyguy]

Thanks for everyone’s input;) I got them done…finally! The snail moves ahead lol

[bryanj]

Allens wife does not bake muffins, she bakes cupcakes

[newday777]

Allens wife does not bake muffins, she bakes cupcakes

😁

[Ozzybud]

Rattle cans NEVER fully cure no matter how long or what temperature you get them to. They will be suseptible to dissolving/oxidizing 10 years out. They  harden via solvent evaporation not a chemical reaction.
You can put any 2K catalyzed clear over the Duplicolor and gas or any other solvent will not affect it.

[rotortiller]

I do my best baking when home alone.

[Tracksnblades1]

Rattle cans NEVER fully cure no matter how long or what temperature you get them to. They will be suseptible to dissolving/oxidizing 10 years out. They  harden via solvent evaporation not a chemical reaction.
You can put any 2K catalyzed clear over the Duplicolor and gas or any other solvent will not affect it.

What Ozzy said ^^

Except I’d just have your dulicolor color duplicated in ImRon by your larger DuPont paint dealer and have them put it in a spray can.. Then it won’t matter if your carbs drip on it or not.. Around $50 - $75 bucks depending on color for the same stuff that’s on every Class 8 truck, boat, plane, and LP bottle from the manufacturer.  You’ll need your respirator and PPE…

[grcamna2]

Rattle cans NEVER fully cure no matter how long or what temperature you get them to. They will be suseptible to dissolving/oxidizing 10 years out. They  harden via solvent evaporation not a chemical reaction.
You can put any 2K catalyzed clear over the Duplicolor and gas or any other solvent will not affect it.

Makes good sense.

[Ozzybud]

Duplicolor 1615 with PPG Omni clear coat.

[dave500]

Duplicolor muffins now available in metallic

[grcamna2]

Duplicolor muffins now available in metallic

Lol 

[Ozzybud]

Rattle cans NEVER fully cure no matter how long or what temperature you get them to. They will be suseptible to dissolving/oxidizing 10 years out. They  harden via solvent evaporation not a chemical reaction.
You can put any 2K catalyzed clear over the Duplicolor and gas or any other solvent will not affect it.

What Ozzy said ^^

Except I’d just have your dulicolor color duplicated in ImRon by your larger DuPont paint dealer and have them put it in a spray can.. Then it won’t matter if your carbs drip on it or not.. Around $50 - $75 bucks depending on color for the same stuff that’s on every Class 8 truck, boat, plane, and LP bottle from the manufacturer.  You’ll need your respirator and PPE…

Imron requires an activator(catalyst) and has an 8  hour pot life.
If it was put in a spray can you would have to use immediately or it would harden in the can!

Best $18.00 you will ever spend for small jobs!

[Tracksnblades1]

Rattle cans NEVER fully cure no matter how long or what temperature you get them to. They will be suseptible to dissolving/oxidizing 10 years out. They  harden via solvent evaporation not a chemical reaction.
You can put any 2K catalyzed clear over the Duplicolor and gas or any other solvent will not affect it.

What Ozzy said ^^

Except I’d just have your dulicolor color duplicated in ImRon by your larger DuPont paint dealer and have them put it in a spray can.. Then it won’t matter if your carbs drip on it or not.. Around $50 - $75 bucks depending on color for the same stuff that’s on every Class 8 truck, boat, plane, and LP bottle from the manufacturer.  You’ll need your respirator and PPE…

Imron requires an activator(catalyst) and has an 8  hour pot life.
If it was put in a spray can you would have to use immediately or it would harden in the can!

Best $18.00 you will ever spend for small jobs!

Yep, absolutely it’ll set up just like concrete.
And DuPont has it figure out, so you don’t have to reinvent the whee.
All you have to do is read the directions..

[Ozzybud]

Rattle cans NEVER fully cure no matter how long or what temperature you get them to. They will be suseptible to dissolving/oxidizing 10 years out. They  harden via solvent evaporation not a chemical reaction.
You can put any 2K catalyzed clear over the Duplicolor and gas or any other solvent will not affect it.

What Ozzy said ^^

Except I’d just have your dulicolor color duplicated in ImRon by your larger DuPont paint dealer and have them put it in a spray can.. Then it won’t matter if your carbs drip on it or not.. Around $50 - $75 bucks depending on color for the same stuff that’s on every Class 8 truck, boat, plane, and LP bottle from the manufacturer.  You’ll need your respirator and PPE…

Imron requires an activator(catalyst) and has an 8  hour pot life.
If it was put in a spray can you would have to use immediately or it would harden in the can!

Best $18.00 you will ever spend for small jobs!

Yep, absolutely it’ll set up just like concrete.
And DuPont has it figure out, so you don’t have to reinvent the whee.
All you have to do is read the directions..

Yes a 2K Rattle can would be a good option.
They mix the activator right before application.The big drawback is the entire can needs to be used right away and it's expensive

[grcamna2]

Rattle cans NEVER fully cure no matter how long or what temperature you get them to. They will be suseptible to dissolving/oxidizing 10 years out. They  harden via solvent evaporation not a chemical reaction.
You can put any 2K catalyzed clear over the Duplicolor and gas or any other solvent will not affect it.

What Ozzy said ^^

Except I’d just have your dulicolor color duplicated in ImRon by your larger DuPont paint dealer and have them put it in a spray can.. Then it won’t matter if your carbs drip on it or not.. Around $50 - $75 bucks depending on color for the same stuff that’s on every Class 8 truck, boat, plane, and LP bottle from the manufacturer.  You’ll need your respirator and PPE…

Imron requires an activator(catalyst) and has an 8  hour pot life.
If it was put in a spray can you would have to use immediately or it would harden in the can!

Best $18.00 you will ever spend for small jobs!

Yep, absolutely it’ll set up just like concrete.
And DuPont has it figure out, so you don’t have to reinvent the whee.
All you have to do is read the directions..

Yes a 2K Rattle can would be a good option.
They mix the activator right before application.The big drawback is the entire can needs to be used right away and it's expensive

+1 0n the 2K rattle can.
I painted my fuel tank on my Honda with Duplicolor black then coated it w/ 2K clear