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Offline Sw1ssdude

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How to remove spray paint from original paint?
« on: August 30, 2024, 07:47:43 AM »
As the title says... does anyone of you have a good suggestion how to remove thick black metallic paint from nice original Honda candy paint?

I have bike tins which are covered in a thick layer of now dull and cracked paint, looks almost like undercoating for a car. in the right light you can see the tiny metal flakes twinkle, but it looks horrible. something must have chafed the tank during storage time, the only defect on the tank is a scratch which shows the nice candy green honda paint underneath.

i'd like to sell this bike, to get some room in my shop (and my head), but every buyer who showed up left without even taking the bike for a spin. it runs and drives well, but it sure is one ugly duckling...

so, how to tackle this?
Rub it with acetone on cotton pads until my fingertips dissolve?
Using paint remover as Miyagi-sensei thought Daniel-san: Wax on, Wax off, repeat? i am afraid the black paint is laid down uneven, it might eat through to the original paint? maybe doing it in sections?
Dabble with Brake fluid? that stuff eats through spraypaint...
sanding? i am afraid this paint will clog sandpaper immediately. its really thick...
Steel wool?

and what about the plastic sidecovers? i know they are brittle, but i have no idea how well they handle chemicals. anything i should avoid?

I try to avoid repainting the bike, it is too rough for new paint, but i am sure the original paint with some imperfections would suit it well.

If anyone of you has successfully restored original paint from the dreaded RAL9005 plague, please share your story.

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Offline denward17

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Re: How to remove spray paint from original paint?
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2024, 08:22:39 AM »
I would think anything you use on the top coat would damage the paint layer you are trying to leave in tact.

I think you might have to bite the bullet here, but just my thoughts.

Maybe some professional painters will comment.

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Re: How to remove spray paint from original paint?
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2024, 09:41:39 AM »
I would think anything you use on the top coat would damage the paint layer you are trying to leave in tact.

I think you might have to bite the bullet here, but just my thoughts.

Maybe some professional painters will comment.

+1 to this. A bit of overspray yes. What you describe sounds like too much.

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Re: How to remove spray paint from original paint?
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2024, 09:45:36 AM »
Maybe cellulose thinners or gunwash on the tank but anything on the sidepanels will destroy them
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Offline Ujeni

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Re: How to remove spray paint from original paint?
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2024, 10:43:10 AM »
Unfortunately, the odds are against you...but its not impossible.

Assuming that you have a tank from the early 70s, the original paint is likely an acrylic lacquer (thats what my 69, 70 and 71 CB750 tanks have). Although this paint has hardened over the past few decades, it is not anywhere as resilient as a modern poly urethane. Yet, it is likely that the dark metallic paint on top of the original paint is a more modern poly urethane. That means you might have a harder paint covering a softer paint. Thats problem number one.

Problem number two is that the original paint was likely sanded down a small bit to spray primer on it before applying the dark metallic paint (assuming the painter had a very basic understanding of paint). That means that your original paint might not be in great condition under there. Thats problem number two.

Problem number three is that in the early days, Honda often used very little or no clear coat on their paint. How do I know? Gently polishing original paint tanks from 1969 and 1970 will pull up some color. That tells me that it is either very thin clean paint or that the top candy coats were thinned and used as the top coat.

Ok, thats the bad news.

The good news is that you might have low quality dark metallic paint on the tank that did not adhere very well. That means that it might come up easily.

What would I do in this case? First, I would do everything I can to try to save the original paint. That means a few experiments on a hidden part of the tank to find your best plan. A few ideas for things to test:

  • I would very very slowly try wet sanding down the tank on the bottom to figure out whats under there. Confirm that there is primer for example. Go slow so you don't burn through the original paint.
  • Try some paint thinner. This is much more gentle than acetone and might soften the dark metallic paint. Again, do this in a hidden area.
  • Drip a bit of fuel on the dark metallic paint. If you are very lucky, the dark metallic paint is not poly urethane and the paint will bubble. As long as you don't leave it there for very long, it shouldn't harm the original paint. Be careful with this as with the previous idea. Work in an area that if things go poorly, all hope isn't lost.

I do not suggest using paint stripper or acetone. They are too strong and will pull up your original paint very quickly.

I suspect that very careful wetsanding is your best bet.
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Re: How to remove spray paint from original paint?
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2024, 10:58:03 AM »
How about the gentle use of a hydraulic water spray power-washer machine;they use high pressure.
You might carefully test in a few spots under the tank to see what happens?
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Offline wolf550

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Re: How to remove spray paint from original paint?
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2024, 12:06:58 PM »
I had some side covers that I have bought on ebay that where caked with rattle can spray paint. I used rounded medical scalpels to scratch the paint away until I reached the clear from the original covers. did this with 500 and 550 sunrise orange and the candy gold. might work the same with yours. I think the thread was "theres gold under these covers"
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Re: How to remove spray paint from original paint?
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2024, 01:29:22 PM »
Lacquer thinner works perfectly and will not likely damage the stock paint below but will easily wipe of the rattle can.
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Re: How to remove spray paint from original paint?
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2024, 02:23:11 PM »
Get new side covers in the correct color and save the originals?
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