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Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« on: September 04, 2024, 09:44:26 AM »
Does anyone have any experience with Futaba points and condensers? Someone is selling a NOS set for a CB750K and I was curious how they compare to Toyo and other OEM brands.

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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2024, 07:35:49 PM »
Does anyone have any experience with Futaba points and condensers? Someone is selling a NOS set for a CB750K and I was curious how they compare to Toyo and other OEM brands.

Wow! I haven't seen a Futaba set since 1975!
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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2024, 07:01:12 AM »
Are they as good as the other Japanese equivalents?

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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2024, 07:08:34 AM »
Are they made in Japan?
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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2024, 07:24:37 AM »
Are they made in Japan?

Box says they are.

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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2024, 08:29:43 AM »
Is it new, or some NOS part that someone found?
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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2024, 11:01:08 AM »
It is in an aged but clean Futaba box. It's still sealed in some kind of tough plastic bag with a little packet of cam lube. It looks brand new, but from the looks of the box it's NOS.
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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2024, 12:19:25 PM »
Futaba has a good reputation in electronics. I used their excellent R/C gear in my model airplanes

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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2024, 07:41:16 PM »
It is in an aged but clean Futaba box. It's still sealed in some kind of tough plastic bag with a little packet of cam lube. It looks brand new, but from the looks of the box it's NOS.

Wow, that's a find!
A suggestion: the condensors from that era could dry out (if unsealed, which those aren't) in their cardboard boxes, and we 'refreshed' them by putting them onto a 10 amp battery charger for a few hours. The condensors were made with a waxy insulator that could dry out: when it did the capacitance dropped to about 0.18uF instead of 0.24uF, so the points tended to spark more than normal for the first few heat-cycles by the engine (which restores them by design).
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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2024, 12:09:36 AM »
Does anyone have any experience with Futaba points and condensers? Someone is selling a NOS set for a CB750K and I was curious how they compare to Toyo and other OEM brands.
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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2024, 05:33:17 AM »
What would a fair price be?

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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2024, 06:39:38 AM »
What would a fair price be?
New Honda plate assembly is @$85.
Maybe $40-45?
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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2024, 07:35:36 AM »
Rare that someone finds something and it's not known about by many of the highly experienced folks here. This forum is great because of all the information available for amateurs like me.
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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2024, 09:44:13 AM »
What would a fair price be?
New Honda plate assembly is @$85.
Maybe $40-45?

That's actually pretty cheap. Where did you get it for that price?
EDIT: I found them at SS. Thanks!
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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2024, 03:10:15 PM »
I have NOS similar set for my CB450K0 .. I will dig out and report back what the quality is like. Of course on the 450K0 the condenser was separate to the points plate (dual condenser in one can)
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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2024, 04:36:36 PM »
CB 450 will fit GL 1000
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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2024, 06:41:59 PM »


That's actually pretty cheap. Where did you get it for that price?
EDIT: I found them at SS. Thanks!
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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2024, 09:02:32 PM »
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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2024, 09:19:31 PM »
How did you order them? I just tried 2 weeks ago (August) to order some points plates, they said Honda made them NLA (again).
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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2024, 12:24:32 AM »
How did you order them? I just tried 2 weeks ago (August) to order some points plates, they said Honda made them NLA (again).
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New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2024, 07:40:27 AM »
Sad that Honda won't keep offering them.
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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2024, 08:31:07 AM »
How did you order them? I just tried 2 weeks ago (August) to order some points plates, they said Honda made them NLA (again).

TBH I didn't place the order, but I was able to add them to my cart and get as far as the "submit order" button. I guess it's possible they'd cancel the order afterwards.

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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2024, 11:07:13 AM »
How did you order them? I just tried 2 weeks ago (August) to order some points plates, they said Honda made them NLA (again).

TBH I didn't place the order, but I was able to add them to my cart and get as far as the "submit order" button. I guess it's possible they'd cancel the order afterwards.

A lot of times they haven't updated their parts database to indicate NLA.
It will let you order a part then when they check and find out the part is NLA they will email you and let you know.
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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2024, 08:14:15 PM »
Honda has been making the points plates available on-and-off since 2006. I've noticed it is the first thing that 'reappears' after they get letters from folks like us. This is at least the 10th time they stopped making them.
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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2024, 12:22:15 AM »
Probably bought in in big batches from Tec
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Re: Futaba Breaker Plate Assembly CB750K
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2024, 06:40:00 AM »
Ebay item 186293181507.  5 left right now.  $50.00
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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2024, 07:54:29 AM »
Ebay item 186293181507.  5 left right now.  $50.00
Thanks! I ordered one, will see what they are all about. :D
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Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
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