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Offline eastern

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Seat lock stud
« on: September 25, 2024, 01:55:53 PM »
Hi All,

I purchased a replacement seat for my CB550 and had to transfer the locking mechanism including the studs that the bolts attach to.  They were in tight and I broke one off.  Looking at it it looks like an exhaust stud from the same bike.  Need to order a replacement.  Can anyone verify that this is indeed a 6mm exhaust stud that is used to attach the seat lock to the seat?  Two posts/studs that the two bolts thread on to.  Thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: Seat lock stud
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2024, 05:55:52 PM »
What 550 do you have???
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Re: Seat lock stud
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2024, 06:13:06 PM »
 If you can find a metric bolt with enough threads you can cut the head off of it.
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Re: Seat lock stud
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2024, 07:37:18 PM »
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Re: Seat lock stud
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2024, 09:30:35 AM »
Need to order a replacement. 

Seems like it might work but need to be cut to proper length. 

FYI - intake and exhaust studs are different..

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Re: Seat lock stud
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2024, 02:36:37 PM »
Forgive me guys here but I don’t see what the problem is. The seat pan on a 550k0 is the same as the 500k, so that means 2 captive nuts welded to the hinge side for the bolts to screw into and 2 studs welded to the pan for the lock plunger to bolt onto. If you strip a captive nut (as I have done) you just grind off the old nut and weld on a new one, if you shear one of the lock plunger bolts off you trim it off and weld a new one on. It’s far easier to just use a standard 6mm bolt with the head still attached, just drill out the old bolt, fit the new one through and weld the head of the bolt to the pan. More secure, more metal to weld to and if you really want you can use a stainless bolt so it rusts far less. As the foam retains water over time, rust is a major concern, most pans rust through from the back than from the front.

Just something I noticed when test fitting my newly powder coated seat pan to my 500k frame was how poor the fit is, with the lock plunger and hinge bar fitted the rear of the seat doesn’t actually touch the frame at the back, this means that any weight, like a pillion for example, distorts the pan and causes it to crack halfway down, something I’ve spotted on numerous 500 seats over the years.

It’s far easier to spot this Poor fitting with a bare frame and a bare pan. The back of the pan needs a small rubber pad attached to the existing rubber pad at the rear to eliminate this problem, something around 4mm thick I estimate.

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Re: Seat lock stud
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2024, 03:58:24 PM »
2 studs welded to the pan for the lock plunger to bolt onto.

I tried to remove the stud from the old seat to use it in the new seat and broke it, didn't realize it was welded.  I was just asking if it is indeed a 6mm stud like the exhaust so I can grab a replacement.   

Thanks all.
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Re: Seat lock stud
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2024, 01:53:45 AM »
Just a standard 6mm stud or bolt, using a bolt would be better for reasons shown above. The stud is normally threaded full length, most 6mm bolts under 30mm (measured from under the head) will be threaded full length and are known as set bolts or set screws if a screw. The stud isn’t very long as standard so may well be under 30mm and thus easy to replace.

If you can’t get welding done easily a solution would be to thread the new bolt through the pan, use a 6mm locknut to secure it in place and remove the spacers in the plunger bracket. You may have to enlarge the holes in the rubbers but that should work. You’d most likely have to do the other stud as well so it sits ok.