Topic: Some times you just have to laugh otherwise you'd cry

[Dime]

I've ridden a ton of gravel roads on my Suzuki GSX-S1000 and never had any issues.  Never even had a dent on the oil filter and it's right behind the front wheel.

Oldgreybeast, with all due respect, I'm more than familiar with your type of reaction. In the past I've warned unnumerable times for the risk of running inline fuel filters on a CB500/550 and I have shared my personal experience with them. More than once a person thought it necessary to reply: "O, but I have ran them for years without a problem." Such a reaction is trivial, anecdotal at best and has little value against a serious warning.
BTW, in this thread you will find evidence that a spin on filter can indeed lead to trouble. True, that post is also anecdotal, so a reader has to weigh its value against your post.
It is my wish that in this forum there were less reactions like yours, where others know better from experience. The latter posts have a warning where yours is trivial.

I have a dozen motorcycles in my garage that all have spin on filters save 1. And all that have spin on filters have way more miles over all types of surfaces than the “housed unit” and none have ever had an issue of “puncture” as eluded to. The shape of a cylindrical metal-walled filter is more likely to deflect debris than allow penetration. There are far more occurrences of members struggling with a corroded, stripped housing bolt than anyone ever reporting a filter puncture.

“Sharp gravel” is a ludicrous statement. Gravel used on road surfaces gets pulverized constantly by the traffic on it and is far less likely to damage a filter that is nearby than a windscreen that is farther away due to velocity and momentum.

Your “warning” is anecdotal at best and based upon a lifetime of rejecting modern advancements and principles of designs and engineering research. As for the OPs preference, if he prefers the stock aesthetic, run the housing and take precautions to avoid corrosion issues. If he prefers a spin on and its potential benefits, run that.

Find a filter you have confidence in that meets or exceeds the 40+ year old factory spec, and install it and ride the damn bike. But restricting choices to decades old approaches in the face of engineering evolution is bewildering. If you want to remain a purist to stock, that’s good with me. I’ll take better than stock because traffic, roads, and speeds today are higher than yester-century’s and I want to enjoy my time inside the helmet and not worry about my safety, reliability or performance.

If you have a 750 with the spin.on.filter can you.share witch one so I can look into it? Thank you

[calj737]

"I wish there were less posts that disagreed with me and more that shared my opinion" in a nutshell.

All anyone has are anecdotes.  Mine are just as valuable as anyone else's.  If spin on filters were an issue, then modern bikes wouldn't use them.

Word.

[Stev-o]

Wow....an oil filter thread debate, I think that is a first!

[rotortiller]

Just curious since you mentioned “bypass”….

What happens to Honda’s bolts bypass when using the spin on conversion…?

What is the spin on filters bypass pressure differential…?  Or do you know..?

The OEM bolt is not required as the spin on filter has the bypass. Yes whenever I substitute a filter I research the bypass psi.

[Dime]

Just curious since you mentioned “bypass”….

What happens to Honda’s bolts bypass when using the spin on conversion…?

What is the spin on filters bypass pressure differential…?  Or do you know..?

The OEM bolt is not required as the spin on filter has the bypass. Yes whenever I substitute a filter I research the bypass psi.

What do you find to be an acceptable bypass pressure? The closest to stock I have found so far is 14-18 lbs

[rotortiller]

Under 20 psi and over 10 with good filter media. SOHC oil pumps are not considered high flow like say a car. This may be of interest and of educational value.
https://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Filters.html#OilFilters 

[PeWe]

These discussions are good, sharing thoughts and experiences.

Like points vs electronic ignitions.

Oil threads a must.

I recently added an oil with known high doses of zinc and phosphorus into the oil I have recently filled at last oil change.
Shifting is much smoother.
I have mixed the oils before, last time the more modern oil only as a test. A synthetic, not the more expensive ester synth. All of same viscosity.

It does not have all the lubrication additives as my bike needs, probably catalytic converter friendly modern oil .
I did not add much oil with high doses of zinc etc, 1/2 litre made a difference.

[Tim2005]

Does anyone here still run magnets from hard drives on their oil filters? This came up on here years back, strip down an old computer hard drive and there are a couple of thin strong magnets in there. Remove them and attach them to the end of the filter that goes into the bottom of the housing. I've done this ever since then, swapping the magnets over when I change filters. They always have a very fine layer of deposit on them, almost like paint, and so far my motors have been very reliable since then

[calj737]

Does anyone here still run magnets from hard drives on their oil filters? This came up on here years back, strip down an old computer hard drive and there are a couple of thin strong magnets in there. Remove them and attach them to the end of the filter that goes into the bottom of the housing. I've done this ever since then, swapping the magnets over when I change filters. They always have a very fine layer of deposit on them, almost like paint, and so far my motors have been very reliable since then

I have installed a magnet in the oil pan at the bottom of the motor on all my vehicles and bikes when service gaskets, motor rebuilds, or occasion provides access to the pan.

[Floshenbarnical]

I use a k&n spin on filter and I’ve had good experiences. If anyone wants to return the stock, I have the original housing plus springs bolts washers etc

[Dime]

I use a k&n spin on filter and I’ve had good experiences. If anyone wants to return the stock, I have the original housing plus springs bolts washers etc

Do you happen to know the part number of the K&N?

[rotortiller]

Do you happen to know the part number of the K&N?

When you find a filter number for your spin on  oil filter try and cross reference it to a Mobil-1 oil filter. It seems there are different spin-on adaptations. Mobil-1 oil filters are built like a brick #$%*house inside and out. I use them on my Yamaha and  Kawasaki street bikes and also on my jet ski. Rocks and debris from the road are not taking these puppies out.

[Dime]

Do you happen to know the part number of the K&N?

When you find a filter number for your spin on  oil filter try and cross reference it to a Mobil-1 oil filter. It seems there are different spin-on adaptations. Mobil-1 oil filters are built like a brick #$%*house inside and out. I use them on my Yamaha and  Kawasaki street bikes and also on my jet ski. Rocks and debris from the road are not taking these puppies out.

I know k&n HP-1002 is one. Will have to look up the cross reference. Thank you

[CycleRanger]

I believe you can use a Wix 51390 filter as well with a thread adapter.